My level of confidence in these systems is about the same, but not perfect. They all need more development. What would be convincing is an independent long term test. We saw a Papp engine running on YouTube and the explosion of the Papp engine in the 1966 demo points to over unity power production but has Rohner build a working engine, we will see in December.
Cheers: Axil On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:10 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: > Axil, I am still attempting to determine the reality of the Papp engine. > Are you convinced that it is working and not misunderstood? I hope that > this is true, but the amount of proof seems a little shy. > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Axil Axil <[email protected]> > To: vortex-l <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 12:00 am > Subject: Re: [Vo]:My first opinions re Defkalion's NI Week presentation > > As an unconnected observer, I am pleased that there is currently three > known systems that can form the basis of LENR products in the very near > future. > This multiplicity of system’s applications is just what is needed to > assure that at least one product will make it into the marketplace. > Like any comparison between a set of systems, they each have strengths > and weaknesses. Based on this evaluation these factor, I have ranked the > utility of these systems in the following order: > Papp first at one, > Rossi in the middle at two > DGTG last at 3. > I believe that both Papp and Rossi will find their niche, and DGTG will > be eventually pushed out of the market if it just comes down to systems > considerations. > What could change things is the efficacy of business practices between > the three companies. Rossi seems to be in the weakest business position. > DGTG is a good company with a good product plan. They will treat their > licensees well but the cost of their licenses are in the millions; high > compared to Papp who has the best price point at a very reasonable $50,000 > each. > The unit cost of the Papp system is very cheap; in the hundreds of > dollars range whereas the other systems are in the millions each, when all > the peripheral equipment is added to their configurations to convert heat > to mechanical energy. > > > Cheers: Axil > > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 3:50 AM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Dear Friends, >> >> I have just published: >> >> >> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2012/08/defkalion-s-lenr-from-discovery-to.html >> >> I want to discuss first the essence of that paper and only later the >> details. Est >> modus in rebus. >> >> You already know I am not affiliated to DGTG and all I have invested in >> them >> is hope and empathy. >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Peter Gluck >> Cluj, Romania >> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >> >> >
