So, for those coming up to speed on the whole Noble Gas Engine story, an additional layer of confusion is the definition of "Bob's brother".
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > http://www.rohnermachine.com/pageaboutus.html > > *Tom Rohner died in March after a long and painful battle against > pancreatic cancer.* > ** > *John and Bob survive.* > > Cheers: Axil > > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 6:06 PM, James Bowery <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Excuse me, it was Friday that I visited Bob. >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:04 PM, James Bowery <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> When I visited Bob, Saturday, he said his brother died. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> http://pesn.com/2012/08/10/9602158_Bill_Clinton_and_Harry_Reid_allegedly_supporting_Inteligentry/ >>>> Bill Clinton and Harry Reid allegedly supporting Inteligentry >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> John Rohner is trying to get support from Bill Clinton and Harry Reid >>>> and at the same time he wants them to crush his brother Bob using the IRS >>>> for running a SCAM. This vendetta is also out to destroy Michael McKubre, >>>> and ally of Bob. >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers: Axil >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Alan Fletcher <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> From: "Jed Rothwell" <[email protected]> >>>>> > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 12:31:53 AM >>>>> >>>>> > I am having difficulty following the discussion from afar. Would >>>>> > someone please summarize in a few sentences what has happened with >>>>> the >>>>> > Papp machine that brings it back into attention? >>>>> >>>>> My understanding : >>>>> >>>>> I believe that the original engines were made in the Rohner (Snr) shop >>>>> .. and that Tom made the original controller (with electrical cross-feeds >>>>> between pairs of cylinders. >>>>> >>>>> Various people got hold of the original engines. >>>>> >>>>> Jimmy Sabori got one, raised and spent lots of money, demonstrated the >>>>> original engine, but never made a new one. >>>>> >>>>> Bob & Tom Rohner got another (they say John wasn't involved) and again >>>>> demonstrated it but never made a new one. Tom recently died. >>>>> >>>>> John Rhoner made an all-electronic controller (per his resume he has >>>>> LOTS of controller experience) -- and this is the heart of the new >>>>> "intelligentry/plasma engines[s]. In particular, it no longer needs the >>>>> cylinder cross-coupling, so single cylinder (eg popper) versions are now >>>>> possible, and it no longer needs radioactive elements in the >>>>> piston/electrodes. >>>>> >>>>> John apparently has patents (defended against Bob?) for the new system. >>>>> >>>>> They have the Tesla public demos of the one-cylinder, the >>>>> controller/coil/electrode kit, and videos of assembling the new >>>>> "enineering >>>>> trainer" engine which they have apparently supplied to their licensees. >>>>> But >>>>> NO video of it running. They say the first public run of ANY engine will >>>>> be >>>>> at the December Powergen expo. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >

