So, for those coming up to speed on the whole Noble Gas Engine story, an
additional layer of confusion is the definition of "Bob's brother".

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

> http://www.rohnermachine.com/pageaboutus.html
>
> *Tom Rohner died in March after a long and painful battle against
> pancreatic cancer.*
> **
> *John and Bob survive.*
>
> Cheers:  Axil
>
> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 6:06 PM, James Bowery <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Excuse me, it was Friday that I visited Bob.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:04 PM, James Bowery <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> When I visited Bob, Saturday, he said his brother died.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://pesn.com/2012/08/10/9602158_Bill_Clinton_and_Harry_Reid_allegedly_supporting_Inteligentry/
>>>>  Bill Clinton and Harry Reid allegedly supporting Inteligentry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John Rohner is trying to get support from Bill Clinton and Harry Reid
>>>> and at the same time he wants them to crush his brother Bob using the IRS
>>>> for running a SCAM. This vendetta is also out to destroy Michael McKubre,
>>>> and ally of Bob.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers:    Axil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Alan Fletcher <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: "Jed Rothwell" <[email protected]>
>>>>> > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 12:31:53 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> > I am having difficulty following the discussion from afar. Would
>>>>> > someone please summarize in a few sentences what has happened with
>>>>> the
>>>>> > Papp machine that brings it back into attention?
>>>>>
>>>>> My understanding :
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe that the original engines were made in the Rohner (Snr) shop
>>>>> .. and that Tom made the original controller (with electrical cross-feeds
>>>>> between pairs of cylinders.
>>>>>
>>>>> Various people got hold of the original engines.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jimmy Sabori got one, raised and spent lots of money, demonstrated the
>>>>> original engine, but never made a new one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob & Tom Rohner got another (they say John wasn't involved) and again
>>>>> demonstrated it but never made a new one. Tom recently died.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Rhoner made an all-electronic controller (per his resume he has
>>>>> LOTS of controller experience) -- and this is the heart of the new
>>>>> "intelligentry/plasma engines[s]. In particular, it no longer needs the
>>>>> cylinder cross-coupling, so single cylinder (eg popper) versions are now
>>>>> possible, and it no longer needs radioactive elements in the
>>>>> piston/electrodes.
>>>>>
>>>>> John apparently has patents (defended against Bob?) for the new system.
>>>>>
>>>>> They have the Tesla public demos of the one-cylinder, the
>>>>> controller/coil/electrode kit, and videos of assembling the new 
>>>>> "enineering
>>>>> trainer" engine which they have apparently supplied to their licensees. 
>>>>> But
>>>>> NO video of it running. They say the first public run of ANY engine will 
>>>>> be
>>>>> at the December Powergen expo.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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