According to Piantelli and to Defkalion. Ni does not work at all with deuterium, Why it works (?) here is a good/bad question. Peter
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: > Slide 16 Takahashi and Kitamura (thanks Akira, Jed et al) > > > https://decibel.ni.com/content/servlet/JiveServlet/download/23750-1-51320/TS > 9240%20Status%20of%20CMN%20CF%20LENR%20Research.pdf > > Summary: Ni-Cu on zirconia support, long period of gain, hydrogen and > deuterium compared for gain. > 1) Far better results with hydrogen than deuterium !!!! > 2) Up to 2 watts per gram max, compared to Celani's technique which is > ten times more > 3) Long run showing no sign of drop-off (other than P-in being turned > off) > 4) Strange Theory of operation involving 4 units > > Brian Ahern sent them one of his early materials (which they mentioned) and > told Takahashi about the copper-nickel on zirconia support (which they did > not mention) - and which they had fabricated by a local company, and it was > by far their best results. > > However, Ahern had even better results with another sample (much better > than > with the copper-nickel on zirconia support (teaser)... and Celani gets much > more energy per gram. > > Lesson: the door is wide open for improvement, but these guys add further > credibility to Ahern/Celani/etc ... but the most interesting thing - which > has not been well-documented in the past is the side-by-side comparison of > hydrogen with deuterium. > > IMPLICATION - there are 20 years of experiments with palladium-deuterium, > most of them using hydrogen as a control. Hydrogen does not work in pure > palladium. Deuterium only seems to work in palladium, and surprisingly is > much poorer in side-by-side with hydrogen, in Ni-Cu (but still gainful). > Most interesting! > > THERE IS A LESSON HERE ... but damn, I'm not sure exactly what it is ! > > Jones > > > > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

