At 12:15 PM 8/18/2012, James Bowery wrote:
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <<mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.com>a...@lomaxdesign.com> wrote: Note that this could be parallel with Jospeh Papp. Papp apparently planted red herrings in his patent applications, things that he knew would not work, to throw people trying to imitate his engine off. Too bad that this is the opposite of the intention of a patent....


More importantly, as I have already stated in this forum, it vitiates the patent in all countries. Moreover in all countries but the US, which is "first to invent" rather than "first to file", it opens the door to a valid patent filing in the present by those who decipher the prior patent. In other words, the noble gas engine has never been in the public domain because its patent disclosure did not, in fact, disclose in such a way that those "skilled in the art" (what art?) could reproduce the benefit of the invention.

Whether or not this is so depends on the exact language of the patent. Probably so. But I'd check with a lawyer before depending on new patentability.

John Rohner, or one of his companies, which he might or might not still control -- this whole thing is too complicated for the average bear -- obtained a new patent fairly recently, which might or might not cover current work. I haven't read it. Not planning to.

Beware of investing in the Papp Engine at this point. The whole situation is a tangled mess. If interested, building a popper would be in order. If Bob Rohner has any sense, he'll encourage people to buy a popper from him, since he's actually demonstrated it. He could easily provide plans for it, with a license to build one, for cheap, and at a decent profit. John's going to eat his lunch if he doesn't.

Unless John doesn't really have a popper and is just bluffing....

See what I mean about mess? Don't risk your life savings just because someone talks a good line. Even if they have a running engine, it could turn out that they don't own the technology, they will lose their shirts, and you along with them.

Be careful!


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