I wish we had more guys looking over these Papp engines to determine whether or 
not they are real.  The concept is interesting, and of course there are 
problems that need resolution before quantity production could be considered.

I have been thinking of the behavior of a crossed field device of this nature 
and think there may be something there, but it is quite complex.  Review the 
operation of magnetrons if you want to see some similar characteristics.  I am 
still attempting to calculate the electromagnetic power pulse applied to the 
piston, since it apparently does not operate as a heat engine.  At them moment 
it is not clear how the nobel gas ion mixture supplies the reaction momentum to 
the piston motion.  One day someone will figue this puppy out.

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: ecat builder <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Aug 19, 2012 12:42 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:McKubre clarifies his view of the Celani demonstration


I would love to hear Mike's real thoughts on the the Papp engine and whether he 
thinks it is an interesting /unexplained phenomenon or we are close to a 
commercial product. 

Its unfortunate that the Rohner boys can't play nice--Bob just shut down all of 
his brother John's YouTube videos.. 

Bob: http://www.rohnermachine.com/
John: http://plasmerg.com/

- Brad


On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote:

I sent Mike a copy of the message I posted here, along with Robert Lynn's 
analysis. He responded:

"It would be fair to say that I have some concerns and am working with others 
to see if these can be resolved.  I also think that the core of the experiment 
is a very clever idea and look forward to seeing more quantitative data."


- Jed





 

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