I hope I can follow up on this later. I was thinking about someting else.

Are there any coordinate transformations for the Sagnac effect?

David

David Jonsson, Sweden, phone callto:+46703000370



On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Roarty, Francis X <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Well basically Lorentz is all about V^2 as you approach C but if the
> isotropy is broken as suggested by Casimir geometry or suppression then
>  the square of the distance is trumped by the cube or fourth of 1/ the
> plate separation.–(A relativistic interpretation is supported by a 1996
> paper, “Cavity QED”<http://th-www.if.uj.edu.pl/acta/vol27/pdf/v27p2409.pdf>by 
> Zofia Bialynicka-Birula which proposes an abrupt break in
> isotropy between Casimir plates and a 1999 paper “The Light Velocity
> Casimir Effect <http://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/9911/9911062.pdf>” by
> Tom Ostoma and Mike Trushyk  which proposes the Casimir cavity as a
>  relativistic environment where the velocity of light appears to increase
> relative to outside the cavity.  It is also supported by a paper from Dr
> Carlos Calvet  “*Evidence for the Existence of 5 Real Spatial Dimensions
> in Quantum 
> Vacuum”*<http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/Articles/3-1/calvet-final.htm>.
> It is further evidenced by claims of modified radioactive decay rates in
> metal pores and powders of Casimir geometry. ****
>
> In all cases above the normal Lorenntzian formulas fall apart, in fact the
> relationship becomes dynamic with change in Casimir geometry having far
> more effect on the isotropy then any gravitational effect… what we call
> isotropic is really just a very slow gradual change we call gravity – we
> always knew this din’t exist below the planl scale with quantum foam and
> wormholes coming into play but what remains controversial is that these
> breaches in isotropy can be aggregated or segregated to manifest themselves
> in the physical world via Casimir geometry. Where we are accustomed to
> Lorentzian contraction on the single axis approaching C the contraction
> observed due to suppression would be symmetrical with no need for any
> spatial displacement.****
>
> Fran****
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> *From:* David Jonsson [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2012 9:48 AM
> *To:* vortex-l
> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Homogeniety of space and the Lorentz
> transformations****
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> I was checking the derivation of the Lorentz transformation and it
> mentions that it relies on space being "homogeneous" or on "isotropy of
> the space". Why are these assumptions made?****
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> See
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_transformation#From_physical_principles
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> And as far as I have read 1 or 2 or neither holds in the group method of
> deriving****
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_transformation#From_group_postulates
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>
> 1. does not hold since two Lorentz transformation correspond to one
> rotation and one Lorentz transformation.****
>
> 2. does not hold since Lorentz transformations are not associative ****
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> I think it is a shortcoming to make preassumptions.****
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> David****
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>
> David Jonsson, Sweden, phone callto:+46703000370****
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