Sounds like a pretty effective test. It is apparent that the Papp device, if real, is not a heat engine due to the cool touch. I suspect LENR activity working in conjunction with some form of electric motor behavior. The axial magnetic field would give the ions a twist in direction that would induce a circulating current within the piston and opposing cap.
Dave -----Original Message----- From: Axil Axil <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 6:13 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Important claims are patented or published as quickly as possible Correction: Rothmen logic should have been JedRothwell logic… as demonstrated in the touch test by an observer of a hot Rossireactor to prove over unity and life after death during late stage of the demo conducted by Rossijust before the last public October demo/test conducted by/for the Government. Remember? This man jumped when he burnt his fingers after he touched a hot reactor surface. Cheers: Axil On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: Let’s use some Rothmen logic here. How can plasma be produced if the temperature of the engine is just warm to the touch? How can 500 HP be produced sustainably without the presence of huge external electrical feed that is easily detectable? Michael McKubre is a man of common sense; according to Mike, the internal power source is either LENR or derived from the vacuum. All that power coming from the vacuum would be hard to believe. How can 500,000 watts come from the vacuum? So most probably LENR is involved in powering the Papp engine. Cheers: Axil On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Alan J Fletcher <[email protected]> wrote: At 12:50 PM 8/30/2012, Axil Axil wrote: Michael McKubre said that the reasonhe believes completely in the reality of the Papp engine reaction for thelast 14 years is that Papp ran a full demo of his engine in front ofpatent examiners to their total satisfaction using a dynamometer… itworked as advertised. On the strength of this demo, the patent office wasforced to give Papp a patent on his engine. Is that documented anywhere? (googling doesn't give any quick, definitivelinks). Are patent office communications archived? The Papp engine is the only LENRdevice that has ever been patented. Since it depends on a plasma, I'd call it Hot fusion.

