Sounds like a pretty effective test.  It is apparent that the Papp device, if 
real, is not a heat engine due to the cool touch.  I suspect LENR activity 
working in conjunction with some form of electric motor behavior.  The axial 
magnetic field would give the ions a twist in direction that would induce a 
circulating current within the piston and opposing cap.

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Axil Axil <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 6:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Important claims are patented or published as quickly as 
possible


Correction: Rothmen logic should have been JedRothwell logic… 
as demonstrated in the touch test by an observer of a hot Rossireactor to prove 
over unity and life after death during late stage of the demo conducted by 
Rossijust before the last public October demo/test conducted by/for the 
Government. Remember? This man jumped when he burnt his fingers after he 
touched a hot reactor surface.
Cheers:     Axil
 
 



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

Let’s use some Rothmen logic here. How can plasma be produced if the 
temperature of the engine is just warm to the touch? How can 500 HP be produced 
sustainably without the presence of huge external electrical feed that is 
easily detectable?
 
Michael McKubre is a man of common sense; according to Mike, the internal power 
source is either LENR or derived from the vacuum. All that power coming from 
the vacuum would be hard to believe.
 
How can 500,000 watts come from the vacuum? So most probably LENR is involved 
in powering the Papp engine.
 
 
Cheers:      Axil



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Alan J Fletcher <[email protected]> wrote:


At 12:50 PM 8/30/2012, Axil Axil wrote:


Michael McKubre said that the reasonhe believes completely in the reality of 
the Papp engine reaction for thelast 14 years is that Papp ran a full demo of 
his engine in front ofpatent examiners to their total satisfaction using a 
dynamometer… itworked as advertised. On the strength of this demo, the patent 
office wasforced to give Papp a patent on his engine.


Is that documented anywhere? (googling doesn't give any quick, 
definitivelinks). Are patent office communications archived?



The Papp engine is the only LENRdevice that has ever been patented.


Since it depends on a plasma, I'd call it Hot fusion.







 

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