Papp/rohners mentioned it starts overheating above 2800 rpm. If the effect releases a large spectrum of radiation/charged particles only a portion might get absorbed locally resulting in heat. The rest might pass right out of the device after also propelling the piston
On Thursday, August 30, 2012, David Roberson wrote: > Sounds like a pretty effective test. It is apparent that the Papp device, > if real, is not a heat engine due to the cool touch. I suspect LENR > activity working in conjunction with some form of electric motor behavior. > The axial magnetic field would give the ions a twist in direction that > would induce a circulating current within the piston and opposing cap. > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Axil Axil <[email protected]> > To: vortex-l <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 6:13 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Important claims are patented or published as quickly as > possible > > Correction: Rothmen logic should have been Jed Rothwell logic… > as demonstrated in the touch test by an observer of a hot Rossi reactor to > prove over unity and life after death during late stage of the demo > conducted by Rossi just before the last public October demo/test conducted > by/for the Government. Remember? This man jumped when he burnt his > fingers after he touched a hot reactor surface. > Cheers: Axil > > > > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Let’s use some Rothmen logic here. How can plasma be produced if the >> temperature of the engine is just warm to the touch? How can 500 HP be >> produced sustainably without the presence of huge external electrical feed >> that is easily detectable? >> >> Michael McKubre is a man of common sense; according to Mike, the internal >> power source is either LENR or derived from the vacuum. All that power >> coming from the vacuum would be hard to believe. >> >> How can 500,000 watts come from the vacuum? So most probably LENR is >> involved in powering the Papp engine. >> >> >> Cheers: Axil >> >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Alan J Fletcher <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> At 12:50 PM 8/30/2012, Axil Axil wrote: >>> >>> Michael McKubre said that the reason he believes completely in the >>> reality of the Papp engine reaction for the last 14 years is that Papp ran >>> a full demo of his engine in front of patent examiners to their total >>> satisfaction using a dynamometer… it worked as advertised. On the strength >>> of this demo, the patent office was forced to give Papp a patent on his >>> engine. >>> >>> >>> Is that documented anywhere? (googling doesn't give any quick, >>> definitive links). Are patent office communications archived? >>> >>> >>> The Papp engine is the only LENR device that has ever been patented. >>> >>> >>> Since it depends on a plasma, I'd call it Hot fusion. >>> >> >> >

