Papp/rohners mentioned it starts overheating above 2800 rpm.  If the effect
releases a large spectrum of radiation/charged particles only a portion
might get absorbed locally resulting in heat.  The rest might pass right
out of the device after also propelling the piston

On Thursday, August 30, 2012, David Roberson wrote:

> Sounds like a pretty effective test.  It is apparent that the Papp device,
> if real, is not a heat engine due to the cool touch.  I suspect LENR
> activity working in conjunction with some form of electric motor behavior.
> The axial magnetic field would give the ions a twist in direction that
> would induce a circulating current within the piston and opposing cap.
>
> Dave
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Axil Axil <[email protected]>
> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 6:13 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Important claims are patented or published as quickly as
> possible
>
>   Correction: Rothmen logic should have been Jed Rothwell logic…
> as demonstrated in the touch test by an observer of a hot Rossi reactor to
> prove over unity and life after death during late stage of the demo
> conducted by Rossi just before the last public October demo/test conducted
> by/for the Government. Remember? This man jumped when he burnt his
> fingers after he touched a hot reactor surface.
>  Cheers:     Axil
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Let’s use some Rothmen logic here. How can plasma be produced if the
>> temperature of the engine is just warm to the touch? How can 500 HP be
>> produced sustainably without the presence of huge external electrical feed
>> that is easily detectable?
>>
>> Michael McKubre is a man of common sense; according to Mike, the internal
>> power source is either LENR or derived from the vacuum. All that power
>> coming from the vacuum would be hard to believe.
>>
>> How can 500,000 watts come from the vacuum? So most probably LENR is
>> involved in powering the Papp engine.
>>
>>
>> Cheers:      Axil
>>
>>   On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Alan J Fletcher <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  At 12:50 PM 8/30/2012, Axil Axil wrote:
>>>
>>>  Michael McKubre said that the reason he believes completely in the
>>> reality of the Papp engine reaction for the last 14 years is that Papp ran
>>> a full demo of his engine in front of patent examiners to their total
>>> satisfaction using a dynamometer… it worked as advertised. On the strength
>>> of this demo, the patent office was forced to give Papp a patent on his
>>> engine.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Is that documented anywhere? (googling doesn't give any quick,
>>> definitive links). Are patent office communications archived?
>>>
>>>
>>>  The Papp engine is the only LENR device that has ever been patented.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Since it depends on a plasma, I'd call it Hot fusion.
>>>
>>
>>
>

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