There is no deuterium in the LeClair’s cavatation. He uses only water and
aluminum from Home Depot.

Molten fluoride salts are transparent like water and the cavatation methods
that LeClair uses will work with molten salts, IMHO; but molten salts are
far hotter of course.

Sonofusion might also perform with molten salts.

Dear pagnucco you suffer from the same Deuterium fixation that many other
cold fusion veterans suffer from. This is based on the fantasy that
Deuterium is required to support a version of hot fusion.

This is what Peter Gluck has been railing about when he tries to draw a
distinction between LENR and LENR+.

Cavatation is a LENR + reaction and is fundamentally the same as the Rossi
reaction where no deuterium is used. All LeClair needs at a minimum is
water to support his reaction.

Cheers:     Axil


On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:27 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Axil,
>
> Interesting points.
> Perhaps related to one of their points on their webpage at URL:
> http://www.quantum-fusion.com/technology.shtml
>
>  ""Due to the laws of quantum mechanics CIF power output exponentially
>    depends on temperature: e.g. a tenfold increase in temperature results
>    in 50,000-fold increase in the output power! Therefore minute process
>    improvements will result in huge power boost (the law of diminishing
>    returns does not apply to CIF design)""
>
> I don't know much about how well deuterium (or D2O) dissolves in these
> salts (or other hi-temp liquids), but it sounds worth pursuing.
> Hopefully, some of the sonofusion proponents will participate in Vortex-l
> discussions.
>
> -- LP
>
>
> Axil^2 wrote:
> > The theory that sonafusion is based on Deuterium fusion may be flawed.
> > Under this theory, two deuterium atoms are supposed to fuse and convert
> > into helium. This fusion does not happen. I do not believe this fusion is
> > possible.
> >
> > As the LeClair experiment with cavatation has indicated, a molecule
> > clustering mechanism which accumulates and concentrates positive electric
> > charge may be the cause of any nuclear reactions that may be happening in
> > sonofusion.
> >
> > IMHO, to make sonofusion as well as the LeClair reactions more effective
> > at
> > producing nuclear heat, molten fluoride salts should be tried to replace
> > water as the cavatation medium. With this engineering change, this ionic
> > cavatation medium may produce coulomb barrier lowering molecular
> > clustering
> > since molten salts have been shown to produce intense damage to
> cavatation
> > impellers 10 times more intense than water.
> >
> > Unlike water, molten salts can support very high electro-turbines
> > operating
> > temperatures up to 1000C. Higher thermodynamic efficiencies will then be
> > possible at ambient pressure.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers:    Axil
> > On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 2:51 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Perhaps of interest -
> >>
> >> I am not sure whether this has been posted on Vortex-l before, but
> >> Quantum Fusion, Inc., has a professional looking website -
> >>
> >> http://www.quantum-fusion.com/
> >>
> >> - which is promoting deuterium based sonofusion with the aim of reducing
> >> energy generation cost to 1 cent/kWh.
> >>
> >> The pdf-documents at the bottom of their science page -
> >>   http://www.quantum-fusion.com/science.shtml
> >> - appear well researched.
> >>
> >> Any opinions on whether sonofusion has suffered the same fate as LENR,
> >> and
> >> whether it deserves a second look?
> >>
> >> -- Lou Pagnucco
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>

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