It will be interesting to see what you all get.  I guess if your using two
nickels, its not going to matter which is plus and which is minus.   Your
correct David, hydrogen should evolve from the negative terminal.   Looking
back at some old notes, It was on the plus side of the power supply (and I
have it noted as not what's expected).  Also, in one run, I used solid
copper electrical wiring as the cathode, which made a nice green solution
after several days of running (the Nickel was the heat source though).

Regardless, it does take long time to get going 8 to 10 hrs and then
sometime the current should go really high and the little coin heats up.
I think I will join you all in the recreation, but I've been wanting to do
the AC experiment with DC pre-charging.   That is, have 3 electrodes, two
Nickel, one Carbon Graphite,  and where the two nickels are on the negative
terminal, the graphite on the positive.  Let that undergo electrolysis for
several days, and then disconnect the DC, and put the nickels under an AC
current of 15V.   That should slosh the hydrogen back and forth in the
lattice and across the surface.   If there is enough boron in the mix
knocked loss from from the borax that falls on the surface of the nickel,
it might work.

Anyway, good luck.  I look forward to hearing about your all's results.

Best Regards,
Chuck
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On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 5:07 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Interesting, but my nickel on the minus side of the supply is the one
> releasing large quantities of tiny gas bubbles.  The one attached to the
> positive supply terminal was dissolved earlier with table salt but looks
> like it will survive with borax.
>
>  I went around and around with this one before I thought I understood
> which terminal is connected to which for the device to operate properly.  I
> think that the positive charge of the H+ group is attracted to the negative
> battery terminal.  Wikipedia makes this statement as well.  So, I believe
> the hydrogen is released to the nickel attached to this negative supply
> terminal.  If you are confident that this is wrong please explain your
> understanding as I would be interested.
>
>  Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jones Beene <[email protected]>
> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
> Sent: Fri, Sep 21, 2012 4:44 pm
> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents :
> Chuck Sites
>
>
>  *From:* Chuck Sites
>
>  Just to make clear, the nickel was always on the + side of the power
> supply,
>  and is described in Wikipedia as the cathode.
>
>  Hmm … I’m usually the mildly dyslexic one, but someone is confused: the
> + or positively charged electrode is the “anode” in an electrolytic cell,
> which is what we are talking about - and the “cathode” is negative
> (attracts protons and positive ions).
>
> In a battery, this terminology is reversed, which is probably what they
> are referring to. Technically a battery is a galvanic cell, not an
> electrolytic cell, since it supplies power. However, to confuse things even
> more, when the battery is being charged, instead of supplying charge, it
> becomes electrolytic. You could win a bet on that one (or lose it).
>

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