A great deal depends upon exactly how the reaction behaves when the internal 
temperature of the core is changed.  Rossi can very rapidly cut off the power 
to the heating element so slow response is not important in that operation.  
After that point in time we are left with the effects of internally generated 
power which is not sufficient to keep the temperature at its level just prior 
to the cut off.  There has been no evidence to support the notion that the 
internal heating increases once the electrical heater is shut down, so it makes 
sense to assume that the core temperature will begin to go down instead of up.  
The positive feedback in effect will next force the core temperature downward 
at an ever faster rate as the device becomes further away from the critical 
self sustaining region.


Rossi most likely allows the internal heating to approach the critical region 
since that is what allows him to achieve a good COP.  The thermal time constant 
becomes infinite at the critical self sustaining level in which case he could 
theoretically wait a very long time to generate the refresh heating.   My 
simulation suggests that keeping the temperature maximum to about 90% of the 
critical level results in his specified COP.


Of course Rossi has to supply refresh pulses of heating when the core 
temperature reaches the proper lower limit.  This action allows the positive 
feedback to force the temperature upward for another major heating event.


This is an early version of Rossi's design and he may face problems that are 
difficult to handle, but it is not possible to compare this device to a steam 
engine unless we are comparing apples to oranges.


There is no issue about other factors needing to be present to get heat after 
death in Rossi's device.  I am confident that LENR heat is being generated for 
most, if not all, of the time that the core is at an elevated temperature.   A 
non LENR active device would merely release stored heat when the drive power is 
eliminated.  In this case, both LENR as well as stored heat will exit the core 
during the cool down phase.  The total heat released could be many times that 
of an inactive core.


I hope to address the temperature rise alluded to in a following post.  


Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Sep 23, 2012 12:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi: Neutrons? : COP200, Linearity


David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:

 
One can establish control of a positive feedback ECAT system by taking away 
enough of the internal device heat so it no longer possess the temperature 
required to regenerate the self sustaining energy.


Yes, I see that. But it seems like a dicey way to control the reaction. I do 
not think it would work quickly enough with an actual large-scale energy source 
for something like a locomotive engine.



There must be other factors at work that inhibit or enhance the reaction. If 
that were not the case, Rossi's cell running in heat after death would not have 
self-heated, nor would Mizuno's and the others that were cooled at a constant 
rate.


In the early days of steam engines and later Diesel engines there were various 
control mechanisms applied that did not work well enough. They were too slow 
(as I suspect this one is), or too crude (such as regulating the fuel supply 
without fine control), or because other unknown control mechanism were at work. 
This resulted in run-away engines and boiler explosions. If Rossi is trying to 
control the thing using thermal methods alone, my hunch is that will not work, 
for reasons similar to the problems with early heat engines.


- Jed


 

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