Hi Eric,

   I think your right.   The yttrium signal was Tom Droege's Pd/D cell.
 This was Pd/D just so there is no confusion with the Ni/H experiments.   I
wish I could recall what Tom's theory was.   He was pretty excited about it
though.   To be honest with everyone, I think it was a mis-identified peak
by the EDAX system as you suggest Eric.
But it kind of fun to think back a how interesting a paper would have been.

Best Regards,
Chuck


On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 12:44 AM, Eric Walker <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> For instance - Y is element 39 and it consists of ~100% of the one stable
>> isotope - which is 88.9 amu, having 29 protons and 40 neutrons with no
>> other
>> isotope.
>>
>
> I think you're right to focus on the weird transmutations.  Yttrium is one
> of them.  It is not like the others.  I think you're talking about a Pd/D
> system.  You probably have in mind a specific reference -- can you share it?
>
> Several possibilities in this instance:
>
>    1. 92Zr + p -> 89Y + 4He
>    2. 92Zr + D -> 90Y + 4He
>    3. 88Sr + p -> 89Y + gamma
>
> According to Hioki et al. [1], impurities that can be found in palladium
> include Pt, Ru, Ag, Rh, Fe and Si.  It is possible that zirconium can also
> be found in the palladium or that it leached in from metal in the
> environment.  Also, Murase et al. report that XPS, which I believe is a
> relative of EDAX, can have a hard time distinguishing between different
> species of the same mass; e.g., for a mass of 96, it would have a hard time
> resolving GaAl, Ca2O, CaFe and 96Mo [2].  So there might be something
> similar going on for Yttrium under EDAX as well.
>
> But the point is a good one -- when I did my analysis of some of the
> transmutations that have been reported, a significant number, but by no
> means all, could be sorted out using P/D capture, so there would appear to
> be something else going on, perhaps in addition to P/D capture, or perhaps
> instead of it.
>
> Eric
>
>
> [1] http://www.iscmns.org/CMNS/JCMNS-Vol6.pdf, p. 64 ff.
> [2] http://www.iscmns.org/CMNS/JCMNS-Vol6.pdf, p. 34 ff.
>
>

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