Jed pointed out the economic problem that we are facing. But I think that
it is more about semantics than the real problem. If we just change our
language, then we can do correct economic policy, because this new-speak
will inherently force us to think in terms what we do really want for the
economy.

(My reference to Orwell was intended  although not in dystopic sense, but
to underline the power of semantics at current political discourse.)

On 5 October 2012 23:02, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson <
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I continue perceive myself as a capitalist at heart.


I think that the main problem here is that terms to describe modern society
are outdated and they are mostly meaningless.

It is just mistake to think society in terms of socialism and capitalism,
because both of them are outdated and they do not have had any relevance
for the past 30 years. Just have a glance towards modern communist China
and see that the divide between socialism and capitalism is silly. And also
China is good example, that high corporate taxes seem not to restrain the
economic growth, contrarily to some economic theories.

Other even more more remarkable contradiction is that Denmark is classified
as the most socialistic country in Europe due to highest tax rate in the
world, but at the same time it is also the most capitalistic country
because market economy is mostly unregulated there. One country cannot be
at the same time the most socialistic and the most capitalistic country,
because there is a logical inconsistency.

Therefore it would be better to redefine term capitalism as an opposite to
consumer demand led economy or pure market economy. Market economy on the
other hand would mean that capital is distributed mostly for the 99% of
people as purchasing power.

This is quite useful distinction because it would clarify the discussion.
If some country would be purely capitalistic, then it would mean that
almost all of the wealth would be in the hands of bankers and
venture capitalists and most importantly in the hands of those who own the
means of production. And rest of the people, who do not own the means of
production, would live in ricardian subsistence level income just like
workers live and work at Foxconn's factory while manufacturing iPad's. In
ricardian capitalistic economy, workers would not be consumers, but they
would in effect be the property of the owners of the factory, although they
are not technically slaves, because they can always jump from the roof and
hence not to do work like it is too common practice at Foxconn's factory.

This classical ricardian definition for pure capitalism would be most
clear.

The opposite for ricardian capitalism is however consumer demand led market
economy, where commodity prices are based on the law of supply and demand.
When we have pure market economy, there is hardly any capital available for
investments, but entrepreneurs are forced to gain their cash for expansion
solely from the sales of goods that they are manufacturing.

It goes without saying that both are bad choices in pure form. Pure
ricardian capitalism will suffocate the law of supply and demand because
all the capital is invested to increase the supply of goods, but as there
is no demand for goods, capitalists do not know what they should produce.
Hence the housing bubble in Australia and elsewhere, where consumer demand
was too weak to direct the investments reliably.

And pure demand led market economy is also problematic, because if all the
capital is in the hands of consumers, there is not enough capital available
to be invested into means of production. And different crowdfunding schemes
are ineffective and difficult to direct.

But those two contradictory economic forces are not meant to be in
existence alone in pure form, but we must find proper level that balances
them and gives the best of both contradictory worlds.The whole is
infinitely greater than the sum of it's parts.

And as Jed pointed out. Robotized manufacturing and especially near future
additive manufacturing will have huge effect what is the natural balance
between the consumer demand and availability of capital. Because wages are
inefficient to distribute the wealth, there must be highly progressive
taxation that redistributes the wealth more evenly, because natural state
of the economy is drifting towards ricardian capitalism.

–Jouni

PS. I just started to read Chris Anderson's new book: Makers: The new
Industrial 
Revolution<http://www.amazon.com/Makers-ebook/dp/B008K4JDLA/ref=tmm_kin_title_0>.
I cannot say yet that it is good, but it looks interesting.

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