I would bet that a demonstration of a charger would not convince many about the reality of CF devices. So many would suggest ways that the effect could be faked or scammed just as we have seen before. I think Rossi has the best idea when he says that the market place can make the final determination.
Dave -----Original Message----- From: Esa Ruoho <esaru...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:08 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:We should employ new methods of persuading the public The first person who goes around during a Sandy#2 and charges people's laptops and mobile phones with a portable CF-device is going to do a lot more to convince people it's a "everyday useful energy-source" than any amount of comments on SciAm or elsewhere. People want a real-life useful thing. I've tried to tell many about Free Energy devices, and they're always like: "Well, can I power my stove with it?", which is a valid question from a real-life use point-of-view. A question without an answer, unfortunately. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Mark Gibbs <mgi...@gibbs.com> wrote: "there is no hope to convince people until there is a working prototype that we can put on the client table, and that clearly work, even roughly." I could have sworn that was what I've been writing on and off for the last year or so! No one but scientists care if CF exists but isn't useful in the everyday world. The endless theories about how CF might work are, in practical terms, unimportant. If CF is shown to be useful, everything changes. All that is required is for someone or some company to fire up a CF device that has some measurable useful energy output and leave it running for long enough to convince everyone it's real -- that would be the kind of fact that I think Peter's referring to that would counter the"anti-CF memes."
