The 2012 Nobel prize physics was awarded to the two workers who have
invented inovative measurement techniques for subatomic particles. This
type of quantum measurement research is the most difficult stuff one can do
in science and the most important.





See





2012 Nobel prize physics





http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/the-nobel-prize-physics-explained-simply_n_1955306.html





This quantum behavior of subatomic particles makes LENR a most difficult
subject to get our arms around both in terms of understanding and
engineering.





Cheers:    axil

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote:

> The original thread title for this topic has gone bonkers.
>
> Axil Axil <[email protected]> quotes DGT:
>
>> "For a brief period of around 10 -13th second, each RSH proton is very
>> close to its electron. Then the RSH nuclei is a masqueraded neutron. As a
>> result, Coulomb forces between such nuclei are almost zero during this
>> short time window."
>>
> They have equipment that can detect these events?!? Their calorimeter
> seems crude. I do not see any nuclear physics equipment nearby that can
> measure reactions. I have seen various gadgets such as scintillation
> detectors at Hokkaido U., Osaka U. and elsewhere. I do not see any in the
> photos. Anyway, I do not think an ordinary detector works for
> reactions lasting 10E-13 seconds. Honestly, I have never seen such
> equipment and I do not know what it would look like. Something like this,
> perhaps?
>
> https://newsline.llnl.gov/articles/2008/mar/03.14.08_detector.php
>
> This is a serious question. Is there some indication DGT measured these
> reactions? How would you do that? I wouldn't know.
>
> If DGT has not actually measured these reactions, and confirmed them
> several times, I think it is unwise to talk about them. It is mere
> speculation, which serves no purpose. It makes them look bad.
>
> Cold fusion is based on experimental results at present. Until the
> experimental results, including fast nuclear reaction data, clearly point
> to a physics theory, I think experimentalists should avoid citing one
> theory or another. This is especially true of people who are trying to
> develop cold fusion into a business. It is okay for an academic scientist
> to speculate about theory with no actual experimental proof. Silly, but
> okay. But in business I think this would be considered unethical.
>
> Theorists such as Hagelstein or Widom and Larsen have nothing else to talk
> about but theory. So it is fine for them to speculate and build what may
> turn out to be castles in the air. That's their job.
>
> - Jed
>
>

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