At 09:28 PM 12/9/2012, Eric Walker wrote:
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:

Well, think about it, Axil. The button is a circular piece of metal, probably steel. It has a well in it, shallow, as I described. At the bottom of the well, there is what looks like, under magnification, some kind of "smear" of something. It would be americium oxide, which is insoluble. You can swallow this stuff, apparently without harm, because it does not dissolve with stomach acides. This would be 0.9 microcurie of Am-241, which is really tiny.

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I think a danger with alpha sources is inhaling them in powdered form or when they are deposited on airborne dust or vapor, such that they become lodged in the lungs. Â Also, americium seeks bone if it enters the blood, where it remains for a long time [1].

Eric

[1] <http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp156.pdf>http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp156.pdf

That source is pretty redunant, saying the same thing over and over. However, it did eventually acknowledge what I long ago heard: people have swallowed Am-241 sources, in the one microcurie range, with practically no untoward effect. They measured the level to which the Americium oxide or dioxide in the sources dissolved, by looking for it in the urine. The levels were extremely small.

Some guy was unfortunate enough to have a whole device blow up in his face, severely lacerating him and blasting maybe a hundred curies of Am into his body. He was treated with massive chelation therapy, and survived for eleven years, dying from unrelated causes. They really followed this guy, because you can't run experiments like this on humans!

He had some damage, all right. But it's not what killed him. He was pretty old at the time of the accident, I think he was 66.

Am-241 sources for ionization smoke detectors are 0.9 microcuries. That amount of Americium, if somehow made airborne and absorbed into the lungs, could be a problem, for sure. But you'd really have to work to get it to do that. For starters, the oxide isn't terribly harmful on the skin or swallowed. Other compounds are much more effective at getting into the body and staying there, the nitrate, for example, has been studied with animals.

So I have an envelope on my desk here, with an Am-241 button in it. It's actually a bit more than the tiny button shown on that youtube video that someone posted, of a woman who dismantled a source. I think that my source is actually a piece of metal (I've thought it was steel, but some have claimed that these sources are mounted on aluminum; mine based strip of metal seems too strong and too hard to be aluminum, but I've not really investigated this.). I'd rather keep the source mounted. Harder to swallow, harder to lose. If the actual button fell on my floor, it would be pretty hard to see.

I've described the source as being a smear of material in the bottom of the well. However, that might not be true. What I see under magnification is an area of shiny material, with an irregular boundary, striated, in the middle of the bottom of the well, largely filling it. But surrounding this is a dark area that is not striated. That does not look like metal, whereas the middle of the bottom does. I'm thinking that the Am-241 oxide (dioxide?) might be the dark material, up against the wall of the well. That would make it even harder to accidentally scrape some out. A bit more of the radiation would be absorbed by the walls of the well.

I'm much more concerned about my piece of Beryllium. It's got something that looks like grime on two edges. Wiped onto a tissue, that appears to be a very dark powder, under magification, the particles seemed very small, relatively uniform in size. Very tiny black specks. I strongly suspect that someone took some bar stock and cut it to make these pieces. And did not ensure that they were left clean. I've asked the seller. No response so far.

If the seller did the cutting, and did this extensively, he risked his own health and may have contaminated some equipment.... I saw no clue in any of his information that this was a hazardous material, which is worrisome all by itself. I was, myself, I assume, exposed to a little of this, a speck or two might have flown, but that level of exposure, if not repeated over time, is not terribly dangerous. The specks are not seen on the plastic bag the piece was enclosed in, so they are not "loose" until wiped off. They might be oily.

I'll keep the Beryllium in its plastic bag for now. Before using it, I'll need to clean it, I'll think about how to do that safely. The total amount of contamination here, if those particles are Be, is very small, I need to keep it from becoming airborne. I don't think I need to call in the hazmat team! There is a lot more Be floating around from beryllium brakes from certain aircraft.... and other sources.

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