----Original Message----- From: David ledin wow today i find a website that was totally mind blowing.
this website is about replication Nicholas Moller 's Atomic Hydrogen Generator based on Irving Langmuir discovery.... JL Naudin replicator achieved COP of 21 with this device (power input of 4.38 watt and power output 92.97 watt (2005).... Sorry to rain on your parade, but Naudin really screwed this up, and the sad thing is that the disinformation remains online - as if JLN had not been busted on it. In fact, it has been almost completely debunked. I say "almost", since there could have been slight gain with proper measurement. Very silly error by Naudin (discovered up by George Holz on the MAGH forum) in that JLN was using a 5% duty cycle and "calculated" the gain by reducing the input readings - instead of measuring them directly. Naudin's error was a multiple of 20 (reciprocal of the duty). He deflated both the voltage AND current readings instead of just the voltage; so there was a systemic underestimate of P-in by a factor of twenty. The calorimetry was good. Actual P-in was near 85 watts, had he done the correct calculation. In the end, there was probably slight gain - not 21:1 but more like 1.1:1 (COP of 1.1) Too bad, since had Naudin not screwed this experiment up royally - it might have been amenable to improvement over the years. There were a few obvious things that could have been tried. Why do you think this has languished over the last 5 years? Answer - no, not "suppression" - but *arrogance* - too much arrogance to correct the obvious error. There are other Naudin sites which suffer the same problem. Jones
