I certainly did not approve of the invasion into Iraq by the Bush Administration. It is not proven that they intentionally fabricated the facts that were used to justify the invasion, but that is another story.
Afghanistan is a different situation. The US had just been maliciously attacked by folks who were allowed to reside openly within that country. Something had to be done to prevent further events and to seek some form of retaliation for the great loss of life and property. Perhaps it would have been adequate to send thousands of bombs and cruise missiles into the cesspool, but who knew what would ultimately be the best policy. In retrospect, perhaps the bombs and missiles would have been a better choice. Dave -----Original Message----- From: John Berry <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Dec 17, 2012 5:36 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Data "Worrying" 2000 climatologists about Global Warming .... Jed, you see the problem. None of that is profitable to oil barons. Did the US invade Afghanistan and Iraq for oil or sand? On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote: John Berry <[email protected]> wrote: I guess you could use this argument in other ways... I'm not going to eat healthily because I could have a piano fall on me. The science of what is and is not healthy isn't entirely settled. Eating healthily seems draconian to me. Maybe eating healthier will cause an increased probability of a piano falling on me? I agree this is a good example of the logical fallacies in this argument. The point that I stress, which has been brought out in this discussion, is that the steps proposed to combat global warming are not draconian at all. Every one of them would be beneficial in its own right. Most of them would be profitable. A few might be fantastically profitable in the long term, unless cold fusion materializes. For example, developing gigantic CSP solar arrays in the U.S. southwest would probably soon cross the line to profitability, and they would continue to get cheaper after that until they are fantastically profitable. The technology cannot be used in other parts of the country, but for that matter, oil well drilling technology cannot be used in other parts of the country either. CSP technology could be exported at a profit to North Africa for the African and southern European market. - Jed
