At 05:09 PM 12/19/2012, [email protected] wrote:
How dare you treat rights of privacy so lightly? Find yourself a
bureaucratic job in DC minding other peoples business.
Fart
Fart produced, as the name might indicate, more gaseous emissions,
perhaps single-handedly contributing to the greenhouse effect. Or
not. Maybe it's insignificant.
James Bowery
<http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]&q=from:%22James+Bowery%22>
Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:07:16 -0800
<http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]&q=date:20121219>
Perhaps what is so difficult for the Vortex "lame brains" is not
deciphering the "Mole" comment, but figuring out why "Lucky Saint" has not
provided a video of this LENR disk boiling water.
The alleged device in question is claimed to have been boiling water
for five years. It's a sealed cell, two pieces of copper bonded, and
small. That could be shown, and, if it is actually boiling water,
without revealing *at all* what is inside, and it is not necessary.
If this small thing keeps boiling water for a few hours, if observers
can examine the beaker thoroughly, and maybe replace the water, and
water keeps boiling, we'd have a conclusive demonstration of an
astounding heat effect.
One could easily fake this in a video, it would be trivial. It could
be done with, indeed, induction heating of the copper, that could be
invisible on the video, and *anything* can be faked in a video. But
this could be extremely difficult to fake with an in-person
demonstration, where observers could check everything -- except, to
preserve "privacy" -- i.e., intellectual rights, if those matter --
the contents of the copper cell.
If that much energy can be produced from a small copper cell, it's
revolutionary, and worth billions or more, even much more.
So the lack of independent confirmation is *telling*. It doesn't
prove that the effect is absent, but that the person claimng the
effect is ... weird.
And therefore cannot be taken as reliable.
That's all.
Look, there are conspiracy theorists who believe that anyone who
finds something like this *will* be suppressed. But that leads to a
conclusion that it should not be publically announced. And here it
is, announced. No, the pieces don't fit together, it doesn't make sense.
We have seen countless "free energy" announcements, and none of them
have been confirmed. Yet there would be ways for a genuine inventor
to deal with the problems of, say, some suppressive conspiracy. It
merely takes patience and time. If he's got that boiling device, he's
got the ticket out of the trap. But he's not using it. Hence ... the
default conclusion is that this is just one more of these phony
announcements, there are many possible motives for such. Sometimes
the person announcing is simply crazy, sometimes it's a prank or
hoax. If the latter, the guy is laughing every time someone takes
this seriously.
In this case, his "point" would be how gullible people are. Well, are we?
By the way, I haven't told the inventor what to do. I'm not even in
communication with the inventor. I've merely written on the high
likelihood here, given known facts, that this is quite unreal. There
is no such device, boiling water for the last five years.
I would *absolutely love* being wrong on this. But what I would love
is irrelevant. It only means that my motive here is not to "win"
through ridicule. Generally, I'm known for pointing out the obvious.
Look, thinking about falsifying my own theory, here: suppose this
device is real. Suppose there is some conspiracy of major interests
to suppress free energy ideas. They have an agency that investigates
possibilities. They aren't a serious conspiracy if they don't! So
they would track this guy down, there are ways. They would find out
where he's getting internet access, where his computer is located,
and they would start to watch him.
If this thing is boiling for five years, it needs constant
maintenance. He's got to be watching it, somehow. They would figure
it out, and, say it's in his house. There would be a break-in to the
house, stuff would be trashed to make it look like the burglars were
ordinary thieves, and the piece of copper would be missing. And then
it would be handled with extreme care. They'd want to know what is
powering it, and they would have the resources to figure it out. If
this is truly a serious conspiracy, the guy would be kidnapped or
just plain killed.
Hence my conclusion: this is a hoax, if there is a conspiracy, they
know that, so they won't bother killing him. They *like* there being
people like him, because it will divert attention from real technologies.
If it's real, there is no conspiracy, then, and the inventor is
merely crazy. Unfortunate. Being a crazy inventor can easily lead to
the loss of one's invention. Crazy people die, and crazy ideas often
die with them. Whether those ideas are sound or not. Consider Papp,
where there are some reasons to think that he might have had
something real. He was also obviously crazy. Crazy people are
dysfunctional (that's the meaning of "crazy.") They can't be trusted
to behave sensibly. And they might also fake something, like a super
submarine that crosses the Atlantic, and leaves the inventor swimming
when the think sinks. Basically, if he's crazy, *we can't trust a
thing he says without independent confirmation.*
I might as well say that the piece of beryllium I got is getting very
hot. It's scary. I've dropped it in some water, and it's boiling, and
it just keeps boiling. I'm worried about neutrons, and I'll be
setting up some LR-115 to check for radiation. Maybe I should borrow a meter.
Now, if I get a knock on the door, maybe I'll learn something. I'll
learn even more if they are wearing hazmat suits, more than even the
dark suits that people worry about.
