Axil,

It would seem to me that the heavy metals making up the popper mechanisms would 
not sink the heat evenly.  The popper spark being a point heat source would 
probably sink heat differently than the heater, which I presume would be some 
kind of coil.

And we know that if we get uneven heating, it would be very easy to mistake 
that as OU heat.  It seems to me that this is the lesson we are learning with 
Celani cell replication attempts.

We probably need some fan to distribute the heat.


But I could be wrong.

Also, a spark heat source would take a long time to heat the entire popper 
mechanism.


It seems to me that it would be very easy to prove OU operation with the 
popper.  Simply compute the amount of energy imparted on the piston as it is 
poppped upwards and compare that with the amount of energy inputted into the 
popper cylinder by the electrical spark.  Using the capacitive banks to create 
a spark, it is a straightforward thing to compute the amount of energy in the 
capacitive bank.


Jojo


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Axil Axil 
  To: vortex-l 
  Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 9:26 AM
  Subject: [Vo]:Is there any flaw in the experimental method in this procedure?


  This is a first pass at a possible way to test the Papp popper for over-unity 
energy production using the KISS method.

  Energy Calibration stage.

  1 - Equalize the temperature of the popper at a fixed arbitrary temperature 
Tc.

  2 - Place the popper in a insolated box in which the internal temperature of 
the box can be measured.

  3 – Use resistive electrical heating to increase the popper to a fixed 
elevated arbitrary temperature Tf. Remove the input electric power to the 
resistive heater when the temperature just reaches Tf.

  4 -  measure the electric energy in watts(Ec) that is required to achieve the 
temperature rise of the popper from Tc to Tf.

    Over-unity energy production test

  1 - Equalize the temperature of the popper at a fixed arbitrary temperature 
Tc. 

  2 - Place the popper in a insolated box in which internal temperature can be 
measured.

  3 – Run the popper using spark discharge until the until a fixed elevated 
arbitrary temperature Tf is achieved. Remove the input electric power to the 
popper when the temperature just reaches Tf.

  4 - Measure the electric energy in watts(Es)  that is required to achieve the 
temperature rise of the popper in spark discharge mode from Tc to Tf.

  Over-unity check

  If Es > Ec, then the popper operates at over-unity energy production. 

  Es/Ec is the COP of the popper.

  Is there any flaw in the experimental method in this procedure?




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