Perhaps there is a problem with the spread of disinformation that you speak of, but did you consider that every time a response is generated, it just gives the subject more publicity? I have come to the conclusion that this is one of the problems within the US that leads to more violence being propagated. One awful act is repeated within the news for far too long which tends to make individuals that are seeking fame to act irrationally. It would have been better for nothing to have been said at any time about the event on public news. Unfortunately, politics usually becomes involved in such manners where there is a tendency to keep the issue alive far beyond reason. Those that continue the process should be held accountable for further problems akin to yelling fire in a crowded environment.
Someone looking for an issue to set off their passions is not going to worry about any counters. They most likely will not balance what they read, but instead concentrate upon a narrow range of inputs that they find particularly offensive. This seems to be the nature of the beast, so it is in the best interest of all concerned to terminate the discussion at once and not keep repeating and consequently spreading the issue. For balance, you should also be concerned about the extreme negativity given to one of the Christian positions during the exchanges. I know that there are people reading the list that hold these types of views in serious contempt. This group in not the proper forum from which to conduct these types of activities and I plead that they be terminated. Dave -----Original Message----- From: de Bivort Lawrence <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:53 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT: The Truth about islam and little girls. Hi, Eric, My motive for posting in Jojo's trolling is not quite the same as Abd ul-Rahman's. I worry about the campaign of disinformation that Islamo-phobes are spreading as widely as they can. It affects the ability of the American people and Europeans to understand issues pertaining to the Middle East, and so degrades the quality of our foreign policy. I know, not the concern of LENR list. But people on this list nonetheless and fortunately form opinions on other matters, and so the disinformation must (I say as a political scientist involved in US foreign policy issues, as well as an engaged LENR observer) be countered. And yes, I know that the disinformation is unfair to list members and the countering of it tedious, repetitious, and, to many, legitimately unwelcome. Hidden Islamophobic agendas and methods have spilled into our list. The matter that Abd ul-Rahman raises of the troll's posting being archived is a real one, even if we have had to waste time countering it. Short of stopping the Islamophobic trolling at its source, I don't know what else to do. Islamophobia is akin to anti-Semitism in its despicability, and one can make the argument easily that the former is a variant of the latter. We should accept neither. Lawry On Jan 2, 2013, at 11:22 PM, Eric Walker wrote: On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[email protected]> wrote: Oh, I'm quivering, shaking with the possibility that *Jed Rothwell* might filter me out. I am not going to subscribe to VortexB-l. This is supposedy a moderated list. If it stays unmoderated, I won't be here long. Hate to say it, but the troll is starting to win. People are starting to lose patience with one another. I think Steve Johnson has been on this list since early days. Any word on Bill? Is he ok? How long do we suffer the present situation until we reconstitute under something like Google Groups, with Terry or another longtimer as mod? Or should everyone who can't stand the situation add he who shall not be named to a killfile? If that's the best we can do for now, how to address Abd's pressing concern about having his background and religion subject to constant assault on this list? Eric
