I'll be completely honest. My insults back at JoJo were intentional, and horrible behavior. I shouldn't have done it.
Also, Bill, I'm trying to sign up on the list on an email that contains my name, and I'm not getting a response. Is signup still turned off? On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:02 AM, William Beaty <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Vorl Bek wrote: > > Good rule. But to be clear, I don't think the insulters are >> necessarily trolls, which are defined, as I understand it, as >> people who are insincere and post to get a rise out of others. >> > > I'm an internet troll myself, and I recognize one of my own. I've never > met any incincere, intentional trolls, but I've encountered numbers of my > own type online, plus the occasional one on vortex. The problem is easy to > see from inside. > > We trolls live in a reality-warp, a dishonest world, we're buried in major > psychological projection and hypocrisy. We refuse to take the tinyest > responsibility for our actions, or to ever view them in a bad light. Any > problems which "inexplicably" arise are always, always, someone elses' > fault, and we're expert at convincing others that this is true. Most of us > keep up a conversation where we apply derogatory labels to those around us, > with glowing descriptions of ourselves. Hence we're usually delivering > obvious insults to others, while labeling our own rotten behavior as pure > and justifed deeds. > > Me, I suspect that most of us got this way from physical/emotional abuse > as children. But I've only heard about this from a very few. For > excessive details on this type of troll or "flamer personality," See: > > Flamer Personality Disorder > http://amasci.com/weird/flamer > > MS Peck, "The People of the Lie" > > http://www.amazon.com/People-**Lie-Hope-Healing-Human/dp/**0684848597<http://www.amazon.com/People-Lie-Hope-Healing-Human/dp/0684848597> > > > The people who took part in the recent rubbish-fest were all >> sincere as far as I could tell, and I think they recognized that >> the insults directed at them were sincerely meant. >> > > If both sides *label* their oppenent's insults as grevious disgusting > slanders, while *labeling* their own insults as justified responses or "I'm > just telling you truths about yourself" ...then you're dealing with > trolls. The constant dishonest labeling is the symptom. The hypocricy is > the symptom, e.g. my own misbehavior is pure and justifed and beyond > reproach, while your *identical* misbehavior is completely disgusting and > requires prompt retribution. (But outsiders see things differently. Well, > they do if they can avoid being drawn into the troll's campaign of > distortion. Attempting to see things from the troll's viewpoint can be a > big mistake.) > > > > (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) > William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website > billb at amasci com http://amasci.com > EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair > Seattle, WA 206-762-3818 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci > >
