Hah! No, I'm Alexander Hollins, at some point gmail started putting an old pen name (pun intended) as my first and last. I'm still not sure how that change happened, as I didn't do it....
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:03 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: > Leaking, I thought that was your real name! :-) Some sort of foreign name > thing. > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: leaking pen <[email protected]> > To: vortex-l <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, Jan 9, 2013 11:58 am > Subject: Re: [Vo]:PLEASE READ, two new rules > > I'll be completely honest. My insults back at JoJo were intentional, and > horrible behavior. I shouldn't have done it. > > Also, Bill, I'm trying to sign up on the list on an email that contains > my name, and I'm not getting a response. Is signup still turned off? > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:02 AM, William Beaty <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Vorl Bek wrote: >> >> Good rule. But to be clear, I don't think the insulters are >>> necessarily trolls, which are defined, as I understand it, as >>> people who are insincere and post to get a rise out of others. >>> >> >> I'm an internet troll myself, and I recognize one of my own. I've never >> met any incincere, intentional trolls, but I've encountered numbers of my >> own type online, plus the occasional one on vortex. The problem is easy to >> see from inside. >> >> We trolls live in a reality-warp, a dishonest world, we're buried in >> major psychological projection and hypocrisy. We refuse to take the >> tinyest responsibility for our actions, or to ever view them in a bad >> light. Any problems which "inexplicably" arise are always, always, someone >> elses' fault, and we're expert at convincing others that this is true. >> Most of us keep up a conversation where we apply derogatory labels to >> those around us, with glowing descriptions of ourselves. Hence we're >> usually delivering obvious insults to others, while labeling our own rotten >> behavior as pure and justifed deeds. >> >> Me, I suspect that most of us got this way from physical/emotional abuse >> as children. But I've only heard about this from a very few. For >> excessive details on this type of troll or "flamer personality," See: >> >> Flamer Personality Disorder >> http://amasci.com/weird/flamer >> >> MS Peck, "The People of the Lie" >> >> http://www.amazon.com/People-**Lie-Hope-Healing-Human/dp/**0684848597<http://www.amazon.com/People-Lie-Hope-Healing-Human/dp/0684848597> >> >> >> The people who took part in the recent rubbish-fest were all >>> sincere as far as I could tell, and I think they recognized that >>> the insults directed at them were sincerely meant. >>> >> >> If both sides *label* their oppenent's insults as grevious disgusting >> slanders, while *labeling* their own insults as justified responses or "I'm >> just telling you truths about yourself" ...then you're dealing with >> trolls. The constant dishonest labeling is the symptom. The hypocricy is >> the symptom, e.g. my own misbehavior is pure and justifed and beyond >> reproach, while your *identical* misbehavior is completely disgusting and >> requires prompt retribution. (But outsiders see things differently. Well, >> they do if they can avoid being drawn into the troll's campaign of >> distortion. Attempting to see things from the troll's viewpoint can be a >> big mistake.) >> >> >> >> (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) >> William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website >> billb at amasci com http://amasci.com >> EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair >> Seattle, WA 206-762-3818 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci >> >> >
