yes, renewable , except hydroelectric, is not yet cost effecive and need huge progress. It is still developed because some see no alternative.
as soon as an easy energy requires 10 times less investment than what is needed for the cheapest energy, nuke, 100 times less than the worst renewable, all the investment will be stopped. the existing source will be kept, easy oil and gaz, old nuke, coal... no other will be supported anymore... solar and wind , like shales, tight oil, off shore, have no future. they are justified by expensive energy and limited fossil resources... It seems recently that many companies and intelligent government (I exclude demagogy states) slow down renewable and move to tight hydrocarbons and thorium... Beside the fashion, the ideologist, and the desperate lobbies, many people realize that it won't work. Another deception is probably that governments have hoped that occidental countries could develop an oligopoly on that technology to fight asia, but china captured the market quickly with coal-fired cheap energy and huge research investment... many recent green policy (Renewable, REACH, CO2, incandescent lamp ban) seems , beside ideology, to be fed by desire to capture a competitive advantage by moving the standards, China managed finally better than occident,and today business are desperate to get advantage. 2013/1/18 Arnaud Kodeck <arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be> > I often agree with you to a very large number of topics. But here, I’m > not. Once the LENR is commercially available, the energy prices will > decline slowly but steadily. The wind turbines and solar (heat, or > photovoltaic cell) require a huge amount of capital per kW/h produced. > Thus, the investments in those green power technologies have very long > term, before becoming positive. This therefore requires that the price of > energy does not decrease.**** > > ** ** > > I’m not saying that LENR will immediately replace all other kind of energy > sources. That will take ages, before LENR energy will be the 1st energy > source in the world. Fossil fuel still has a long term view.**** > > ** ** > > But for the so called “Green Power Technologies”, LENR will stop all the > investments in this field. I think Siemens is aware of this as well. There > are too many investments to do with low certainty of money back (in case of > commercially available LENR reactors). For sure, I will not, for ever, > invest my money in those technologies.**** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* vendredi 18 janvier 2013 22:24 > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A "Big European Consortium" has an eye on MFMP**** > > ** ** > > Arnaud Kodeck <arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be> wrote:**** > > **** > > My guess is Siemens. Why? **** > > 1. Because they stopped all their investments in Green power > technology (Wind, Solar, …). If LENR becomes a commercial reality, all the > business with “Green Technology” will be obsolete in the second after.* > *** > > ** ** > > It would premature to stop those investments now because LENR might come > to pass. Even I think so, and no one is more confident that cold fusion has > to potential to displace all other sources of energy than I am.**** > > ** ** > > It has the potential, yes. But first it must be controlled, then > developed. There is no telling how long that might take. Even if I saw a > working Rossi reactor, I would not advise Siemens or GE to abandon > development of all other energy technology. Not just yet.**** > > ** ** > > - Jed**** > > ** ** >
