On Feb 10, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote:
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Edmund Storms
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Feb 10, 2013, at 8:20 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote:
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Edmund Storms
<[email protected]> wrote:
Storms: NO!!! That is not the issue Cold fusion produces He4
without radiation.
KevinO:***There have been some observances of radiation. Not very
much, but some.
Storms:Yes, I know but that is not the point.
***Then why did you make the point? Your claim was "Cold fusion
produces He4 without radiation." My analogy fits the observance
well, in terms of a little bit of emitted energy (balloon pops)
getting out of the lattice -- not very much but some. There is some
radiation, but most of it gets absorbed by the lattice. What point
are you trying to make?
Sorry, I thought I had made the point often enough that very little
radiation is detected that I got sloppy. The point is that large
amounts of energetic radiation are not detected. Yes, a little
radiation is detected that is energetic enough to get out of the
apparatus. However, a large amount of radiation would be created
inside the apparatus. If you read my papers, you would already know
exactly what I claim.
I think you can make a better analogy by comparing exploding and
burning.
***My analogy was aimed at showing that it's fusion that's taking
place, whether hot or cold, and that claiming there is "no"
radiation didn't fit the facts. You even say "yes I know but that
is not the point".
Hot fusion is an explosion of the nucleus as a result of pet up
nuclear energy. Cold fusion is a burning reaction that allows the
energy to leak out slowly even though the same reaction products
are produced. Both can occur in a lattice, but cold fusion REQUIRES
the lattice while hot fusion does not.
***Your analogy does not make sense. To say that cold fusion is a
burning reaction while hot fusion isn't would require us to fill
the balloons with 2 different flammable gasses. But any balloons
in a lattice would burn/pop when placed next to another burning
balloon, suggesting a self-sustained nuclear chain reaction such as
fission. That isn't what takes place in cold fusion cells.
Both hot and cold fusions are a result of pent up nuclear energy.
Both are explosions. But they are on completely different scales.
That's why I said there's only one balloon pop in cold fusion and
50,000 balloon pops in hot fusion. There's no corresponding 50,000
balloon pop in cold fusion -- I'm not aware of any LENR/Cold fusion
cell that has undergone a HUGE nuclear reaction resulting in lethal
levels of gamma rays, neutrons, or whatever radiation. I doubt
that it can happen. To say that cold fusion requires the lattice
while hot fusion does not is ignoring the analogical fact that
50,000 balloons are being popped at once in the hot fusion balloon
example -- there's no way to do that in a lattice as far as I can
see. And if there was a way, there would be the corresponding
lethal levels of radiation. And conversely, there's no way to get
just one balloon to pop in the hot-fusion example.
