Here you and I agree. I just is!! But what is it? The universe is not designed for us. We are temporary inhabants just like the dinosaurs and millions of other life-forms. What is the universe designed to do? I believe it is designed to acquire awareness. The awareness starts in the various life-forms throughout the universe and it eventually is accumulated elsewhere. Identifying this elsewhere is the big problem.

As for free will, I believe nothing stops us from doing anything we want except our own mental limitations. It does not matter to the system because we will either pass the test and continue to exist or fail and die. The system does not care. The system is designed to create by trial and error the most efficient product. We humans are not the best example of this process nor is it clear we will pass the coming tests. We will only pass the tests if we play by the required rules. To do this, we must understand the rules. Unfortunately, this understanding is severely lacking.

Ed
On Feb 15, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Chris Zell wrote:

First, I used to be an ardent Creationist but realized that nature does not allow for such a notion. There's far too much that exists that's just horrible - and ( seemingly) Really Well Designed - such as Guinea worms, Crocodiles, Tyrannosaurus Rex and more. A personal Creator would have to be a psychopath and would resemble something out of a H.P. Lovecraft novel.

However, that still allows for a transcendent impersonal God who operates as a system - and might even answer prayers.

I think the human race has a perceptual block in that they use the brain as an analogy for a God as Designer instead of seeing "Him" as being more like the body - a marvelous system of systems that needs no immediate conscious direction to grow or exist ( I still breathe and my heart still beats even though I don't think about it)

As for symmetry and more, I have one thing to say: Folks, at some level, the universe "just is". Yep, that's right - reductionism fails, ends, no mas..... Victor Mansfield realized this ( Buddhist physicist) - so have some atheist scientists who critique entanglement results ( Victor Stenger)

Which leaves me wondering, what in the macro world might "just be"? Ghosts? ESP? Bigfoot? I don't know but I do get a laugh whenever some Great Authority pontificates about what can or can't exist according to some neat, elegant theory of reality. Ultimately, it all, 'just is'. That's why I had no trouble believing that Cold Fusion could be real. Plasmons and such are nice but , in the end, stuff 'just is'.

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