Thanks for the clarifications, Jed...
I understand you're in a position to hear from insiders who have recently
worked with Rossi's technology...
Well, what are people saying?? Surely you agree that if a breakthrough as
important as "energy independence" was found, more people would be talking
specifics. ("I saw Rossi's ABC and it clearly did XYZ!")
Even with NDAs and national security at stake, people want to talk about
good news.
My confidence level in Rossi has gone from 90% down to less than 5%. I'm
now fully invested in "big oil" stocks and I'm even putting a 10kw of solar
panels on my roof-- a technology I had hoped would be made obsolete by LENR.
What is your confidence level that LENR can produce more than a few watts
of energy today? In 2 years? What kinds of different decisions are you
making with your insider knowledge of LENR?
Curiously,
- Brad
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote:
> Brad Lowe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I don't know anyone on this list who has met Rossi.. But Krivit is one of
>> the few people who has met Rossi and watched him run one of his
>> demonstrations.
>>
>
> That is incorrect. I know many people who have met Rossi. Some have worked
> with him for weeks, or months, in his lab. I know people who tested his
> devices independently, in their own labs, when he was not present. I would
> say I know more people who have worked with Rossi and examined his devices
> than just about any other researcher, except McKubre.
>
> Granted, I also know people he threw out of his lab in a fury when they
> pointed out mistakes. He was yelling and carrying on. He has quite a temper
> at times. Although he is usually a sweet fellow. I guess he is under a lot
> of pressure.
>
> I have not met with him in person but I have spoken with him on the phone.
>
>
>
>> Rossi claimed to be producing kilowatts of steam, while his device was
>> clearly not putting out more than an electric tea kettle.
>>
>
> That's not quite accurate, I think. Anyway, an electric tea kettle puts
> out 1.5 kW in the U.S., but the steam is barely visible. I have a 2 kW gas
> tabletop cooker for shabu-shabu with a small hole in the top of the ceramic
> pot. (Some sources say this thing is 4 kW.) When it is going full blast it
> produces only a thin stream of steam from the hole. See:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Max-Burton-Table-Burner-Black/dp/B000G6S8Y8
>
>
>
>> We have very little evidence to suggest that Rossi is not a pathological
>> liar . . .
>>
>
> Well, he does tend to make things up, especially about people and his
> business affairs. He boldly lied about *me* on a few occasions! But I
> have never seen him lie about technical issues. Perhaps I never caught him.
> As I said, I know people who confirmed his claims independently, with their
> own instruments. That was years ago when he had that heater in the factory
> in Italy. They tested that one, too.
>
>
> I know that some people have reported meeting Rossi and thinking that he
>> appeared to be a nice, sincere, older gentleman.
>>
>
> I would definitely not describe him that way. I probably know him better
> than you do. He is nice sometimes, but nasty at other times. He treats his
> business partners like dirt. I would sooner make a business deal with a
> baracuuda.
>
>
>
>> But unfortunately, that does not mean that he is not delusional.
>>
>
> I see no evidence for that. Everyone I know who has met him says he is
> brilliant, hands-on and well grounded. He has a track record of inventing
> important, commercially successful catalytic technology. Plus some
> failures. Anyone who accomplishes something of importance in technology has
> also failed.
>
>
>
>> Perhaps Rossi has taken the quote of Jean Giraudoux to heart:
>> The *secret* of *success* is *sincerity*. Once you can fake that you've
>> got it made.
>>
>
> If we had to depend on Rossi's personal credibility to evaluate his work,
> I would dismiss it in an instant. Fortunately, we have some independent
> proof. Not as much as I would like, but some.
>
>
>
>> Krivit is also in a position to hear whispers from people who may have
>> talked with Rossi--perhaps under NDA.
>>
>
> I have been to presentations by people who have worked with Rossi directly
> and who independently tested his devices when he was not there, including
> Focardi. To hell with whispers and NDAs. To hell with Krivit's rumor
> mongering, and his absurd misunderstanding of McKubre. I can see why he
> would be confused by Rossi. Rossi's tests are terrible! I think he
> obfuscates deliberately. But Krivit is confused about McKubre because he
> lacks technical skill.
>
> - Jed
>
>
