By the way, if Widom and Larsen use these LENR experimental proofs, this
invalidates WL as a LENR+ theory.

Cheers:   Axil

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

> In LENR, there is direct experimental evidence for the existence of such
> hot spots in before-and-after scanning electron microscope (SEM) images of
> the surfaces of experimental LENR devices, some of which have lithium in or
> around them. In post-experiment SEM images
> http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/SzpakSexperiment.pdf, a host of new,
> weird looking micron-scale structures are observed scattered randomly
> across the metallic surfaces.
>
> Various researchers have described these unusual structural features as
> resembling “craters”, “volcanoes”, flash melted and cooled “puddles,” “gas
> holes”, “ejecta from craters”, etc. Based on their appearance, they appear
> to be the result of some sort of “flash” melting of the surface in small
> sites at many locations. A US Navy group actually imaged an operating
> cathode with an IR camera: hot spots in infrared looked like fireflies in a
> field at night
> In their paper, Widom and Larsen calculated LENR reaction rates based on
> their theory and found they matched the experimental results.
>
> They also estimated the ‘noise temperature’ for such ‘hot spots’ to be 4
> 000 – 6 000 degrees Kelvin, comparable to the temperature on the surface of
> the sun and above the boiling point of any metal. This is entirely
> consistent with many experimental observations.
>
> Use some logic here. In the LENR+ Ni/H reactors developed by Rossi and
> DGT, there are delicate nanowires attached to the micro-particles. 6000K
> heat will destroy these important structures.
>
> Therefore 6000K heat does not occur in the Ni/H reactors.
>
>
> Cheers:    Axil
>
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Alain Sepeda <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> non destructive is one hypothesis.
>> regenerative is another.
>>
>> craters have been observed, transmutation too... maybe the destruction
>> regenerate the production instead of killing it.
>>
>> Maybe is a kind of controlled chaos/imperfection the source of LENR, like
>> it is for some kind of superconduction, for laser existence, for
>> semiconduction...
>>
>> Maybe what is killing LENR is not disorder, but annealing, or impurities
>> segregation.
>>
>> not sure of any position.
>>
>> it is not time to close any door.
>>
>>
>> 2013/3/27 Axil Axil <[email protected]>
>>
>>> We can use logic as a sensitive probe of LENR.
>>>
>>> Let’s explore the proposition; LENR+ is not self- destructive, since it
>>> functions for a long time.
>>>
>>> A LENR theory that does not explain how the reaction is not
>>> self-destructive is a false one.
>>>
>>
>>
>

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