Polywater may come back to embarrass the so called 'competent' scientific community...
As was originally brought up by Bill Beatty (this list's founder) in 2008, unbeknownst to me, and later that year by me in this thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg27994.html is the work of Dr. Gerald Pollack, who happens to be at the Univ of Washington where Mr. Beatty works. He was selected for a faculty award from the UofW, and his presentation is quite interesting: "Water, Energy, and Life: Fresh Views From the Water's Edge" That presentation can be seen on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVBEwn6iWOo I did a search of the vortex archives and came up with ~40 postings on this phenomenon... there is probably nothing in sci/tech that this diverse collection of inquisitive minds hasn't discussed. I have not read any of the literature on polywater, so I'm not here to judge, but could it be that what was seen back then was this phenomenon, which also was difficult to reproduce since they didn't realize what was necessary to make it come about? The material is out there so I am just alerting the Collective to its existence... What I can say, is that I've listened to Dr. Pollack's presentations and read a few papers, not only of his work but now quite a few others who have contributed to a more complete understanding of how water is 'structured' near an interface. I strongly suggest anyone interested in science, and especially if they work with systems (living or not) which involve water and interfaces, to look into this body of research. Water near an interface (out to perhaps several thousand to a million molecules length) is very different from the bulk water -- it is more like a gel or 'liquid crystal'. "We found something astonishing," Pollack recalls. A few of his scientific predecessors had proposed that a charged surface could cause water molecules to line up, as they do in a crystal, as far out as 100 molecules. But his experiments showed dissolved particles disappeared and light waves behaved differently -- two clues that the water molecules are lined up -- in a layer 1 million molecules wide. That's more than 10,000 times what was previously believed." So those who so smugly use polywater as an example of how even scientists can be deluded, and how the 'mainstream' scientists saved the day, might end up eating crow for dinner... time will tell. When something so 'simple' and ubiquitous as water, something making up 2/3rds of the earth's surface, something that has been probed and studied by all our sophisticated scientific instruments, is still the source of significant new insights and discoveries, then how can any rational scientist think that we know the minutest fraction of what the nucleus is hiding???? -Mark
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