On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote:

> Joshua Cude <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>  As I wrote, it represents  the probability that ALL of the replications
>>> were the result of error.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>> No it doesn't. That is true only if all the attempts give replications.
>> Look up the binomial distribution, and find someone to explain it to you.
>>
>
> I believe that would only apply if success or failure was random.
>

You're not following the argument. The claim is that *If* the positive
results are from random errors, then the number of positive hits would be
very unlikely. But that's not true using 1/3 for the chance of a false
positive, because that fits pretty well with the success rate reported by
Hubler for example. If the probability of a false positive is 1/3, and you
run N experiments, you should expect something close to N/3 false
positives. O'Malley's calculation determines the probability of getting N
hits in N tries. It's just wrong.




>  When a cathode fails in a properly equipped lab, they always know why it
> failed. They can spot the defect. When there are no defects and all control
> parameters are met, it always works. So you need only look at the positive
> results, and estimate the likelihood that every one of them was caused by
> incompetent researchers making mistakes.
>

Storms himself says positive results depend on nature's mood. He said here:
"Of course it's erratic… created by guided luck." If you're calculating the
likelihood of a certain number of hits from errors, you have to consider
all the attempts, not just the successful ones. It's elementary.


I'm not saying Cravens' bayesian analysis is wrong, though I suspect the
assumptions are, but O'Malleys' simplistic analysis teaches us nothing.

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