You're missing my point. A power meter looking at wall power is blind to any 
internal power source in the box that directly supplies the device with 
additional power.

There's another way to perpetrate the output hoax, and that's to secrete 
infrared lasers in the ceiling and heat the device up remotely.

It's alleged by Mary Yugo that "the rest of the measurement instruments were 
assembled by his close associate and personal friend, G. Levi. " I have no way 
of assessing the veracity of that statement; how does she know that?

See comments here
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/156393-cold-fusion-reactor-independently-verified-has-10000-times-the-energy-density-of-gas

Andrew


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jed Rothwell 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 1:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Levi Hot Cat paper is a gem


  Andrew <[email protected]> wrote:

   
    Since the supply powering the E-cat is off-limits, they measure only wall 
power. That means that one could secrete a discrete power source inside the 
supply box, and its power output would evade measurement. That's the "input 
hoax".


  Mary Yugu suggested this, at Forbes. Unless she or some other skeptic can 
describe a method of fooling a modern, high quality power meter I think she has 
no case.



    The "output hoax" might consist of secreting a nuclear power source, 
appropriately shielded, inside the other inaccessible part of the apparatus; 
the E-cat itself.


  Bianchini's meters would have detected this. Even a Pu-238 reactor will 
trigger his sensors. Pu-238 costs fantastic sums of money and civilians such as 
Rossi are not allowed to buy it.


  It would take about 1.4 kg of Pu-238 to produce this much heat. The U.S. DoE 
is spending $1.5 billion to produce 150 kg of the stuff. That's $10 million per 
kg, so this would cost Rossi $14 million if he bought it on the black market. I 
guess he could steal it himself from highly secure DoE bomb factories that hold 
50,000 drum cans of toxic radioactive waste. I doubt he is capable of that.


  I think we should rule out this kind of thing.


  - Jed

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