>From the experience of me and my beloved NGO lobbyist the NGO are not
different from corporation...

Note also that the ethic of sympathetic fashion corporation/NGO is often
the worst since they are seldom criticized...
eg: Greenpeace is know for many affaire of blatant lies that would have put
exxon or Areva boss in jail.
eg2: the worst tax-optimizers upon earth are sympathetic companies like
google, apple, starbuck...

if you want to find liars and crooks, search where there are institution
you trust really, people hard to be criticized, with journalist sympathy,
owning some uncriticizable moral value...

Majority or victimized religious organization are not to be forgotten, but
they are simply NGO in my classification.

2013/5/24 Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>

> Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> 1) does the government commonly lie?
>>
>
> No, it seldom lies, and usually only with regard to obscure or unimportant
> things, because larger lies are discovered by the press or the party out of
> power.
>
> The government lives in a glass house. Corporations find it much easier to
> lie.
>
>
>>
>> 2) does the government wish to retain control and power over their
>> respective masses?
>>
>
> No.
>
>
>
>> 3) does the government have the means to effectively distract, mislead,
>> suppress or kill anyone who attempts to expose the facts about #1?
>>
>
> It sometimes thinks it does, but it usually botches such attempts. See,
> for example, the Daniel Ellsberg case, and Watergate, and recent scandals
> at the IRS.
>
> I have known many people who worked for the government, and also three
> members of congress. They told me that no secret in Washington DC stays
> secret longer than fifteen minutes. Gossip and secrets are the coin of the
> realm. Like any coins they are useless unless spent. During the pursuit of
> Osama bin Laden at Tora Bora, one of the most valuable military secrets was
> that he and other terrorists were being tracked by cell phone. This was
> revealed within a few days by gung ho members of the Bush administration
> who wanted credit for their military prowess. Naturally, bin Laden and the
> others learned of it within hours, and the technique was defunct.
>
> My late father was involved in military intelligence during and after
> WWII. He said the US ability to conduct secret operations and to keep
> secrets was abysmal then and after. Recent history seems to bear this out.
>
> - Jed
>
>

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