And what of the reagents within the reactor? the hydride or other hydrogen supplying material. These are very combustible/oxidisable in air at high temp, quite likely to the point of melting stainless.
On 24 May 2013 22:30, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > David, have you ever actually heated stainless steel. I suggest you take > a spoon from your collection in the kitchen and heat it to red hot. You > will find that the spoon will turn black but will not ignite. If you keep > heating to a higher temperature, it will soften and bend, but will not > ignite. So tell me, why would you suggest the stainless in the Rossi > device would ignite? > > Ed Storms > > > > On May 24, 2013, at 3:21 PM, David L Babcock wrote: > > I have no idea what it would take to "ignite" stainless steel, but this > may be what happened. A breech occurred, air entered, steel burned. > Enough extra heat generated to melt the ceramic. > > The chemical energy for this short event would be plenty, no need to have > NAEs still operable in liquid state! > > Ol' Bab, who was as engineer... > > > > On 5/24/2013 2:38 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: > > Please people, stay in the real world. The description Alex gives has no > relationship to what has been described in the paper or to what is > possible. We have no way of knowing the melting point of that material > claim to melt. We have no way of knowing how much melted. At the vary > least, once the stainless steel container in which the Ni was located > formed a hole, the H2 would escape and the nuclear reaction would stop. In > addition, we do not know the melting point of the Ni in the container > because it was reacted with a secret catalyst. In other words, we know > nothing that would support such speculations. > > Ed Storms > > > On May 24, 2013, at 12:17 PM, David Roberson wrote: > > Axil, > > You pose some interesting questions. If what you suggest is true, then > this form of LENR would be a bulk effect. > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Fri, May 24, 2013 2:12 pm > Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test > > The other very important piece of the puzzle that this Rossi demo has > revealed is how extreme the LENR can get. This tells us important new > things about the LENR reaction. > When the E-Cat melts down, its temperature reaches at least 2000C. The > melting point of the ceramic used is in that temperature range. > We know that ceramic is used in the reactor and that the LENR reaction can > melt it. This is exciting. > At that temperature, the nickel powder and the AISI 310 steel has long > reached its melting point. > The LENR reaction must be able to function in a liquid metal environment. > The concept of an NAE supported in only solid material must be discarded. > LENR must function in liquid and vapor. > Riddle me that one batman. > Collective, in other words, I will be awaiting your theories. > > > SNIP > > > > >
