sorry try this link:

http://physics.aps.org/articles/v6/59


On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

> three body forces are important. The shell model and magic numbers fall
> out of tensor and three-nucleon forces 
> theory<http://www.energyfromthorium.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4057>
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> http://physics.aps.org/articles/v6/59]Viewpoint
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> Pushing Back the Frontier of Stability
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> On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 2:50 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> In reply to  David Roberson's message of Fri, 24 May 2013 23:42:18 -0400
>> (EDT):
>> Hi,
>> [snip]
>> >So, my ultimate desire is to understand exactly how excess energy is
>> stored within a nucleus.   A single proton does not have the ability to
>> perform that function under normal conditions.   When fusion occurs, gammas
>> are emitted by some mechanism from the nuclear energy storage process.
>>  Classical ideas would suggest that the energy might be stored in a process
>> somewhat like that of a pair of balls connected by a spring which in this
>> case would simulate the strong force.
>>
>> The fact that nuclei often have neutron cross sections with sharp peaks
>> in the
>> energy of the neutron, hints IMO that nuclei have rigid structures.
>> However much
>> like a box of apples, different arrangements are possible. Each different
>> arrangement has its own energy level, but there is a (slight) barrier to
>> overcome in changing between arrangements, e.g. an apple, once having
>> settled
>> into the dip between other apples needs a slight nudge to get it over it's
>> nearest neighbor into the next dip. The ZPE can however provide the energy
>> required to push a nucleon into the next "dip", provided that in so doing
>> the
>> nucleus reaches a lower energy level such that the loan from the Bank of
>> Heisenberg is rapidly repaid. Perhaps more accurately, if there is no
>> lower
>> position, then the "apple" simply roles back to it's original spot,
>> returning
>> the borrowed energy during the process.
>>
>> When a neutron from outside enters the nucleus, many other "apples" get
>> shifted
>> around, and it takes a while for them all to settle down again, each shift
>> releasing a gamma photon.
>> [snip]
>> >I ask these somewhat silly sounding questions because it frequently
>> occurs that a proposed reaction is questioned because of a concern for the
>> conservation of energy and momentum during the fusion process.  I seek a
>> way to buy time during the event which might be used to slowly absorb the
>> high level of energy that is ultimately released by fusion.
>>
>> You won't be buying much time. Particle emission usually happens in about
>> 1E-23
>> seconds, and gamma emission on the order of about 1E-17 seconds, except
>> when a
>> so called "meta-stable" state is achieved.
>>
>> >
>> >For instance, a two body collision can always be shown to conserve
>> momentum and energy as long as no energy is released during the collision
>> and they remain attached.  Then, the trick is to figure out how to extract
>> that excess energy without significantly upsetting the center of mass of
>> the initial pair.  If the energy can be taken over a long enough period of
>> time, then interesting things happen.
>>
>> Indeed "if".
>>
>> >
>> >Another question is why can't a proton have additional mass that exists
>> in the form of kinetic energy of its constituent quarks?  I guess this is
>> equivalent of asking whether or not a proton can have a temperature. :-)
>>
>> Only when it has a fever. ;)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Robin van Spaandonk
>>
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