Do you think that Rossi would be stupid enough to have DC voltage at the power 
socket pins which would be so easy to check?  The testers could have looked at 
this at any time and his gig would have been up.  This is not reasonable to 
assume as he was not around to prevent this from happening.

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 1:57 am
Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Torbjörn Hartman describes 
power measurments



By direct admission of the team, posted here, it did not occur to them to check 
for a DC level change.
  
----- Original Message ----- 
  
From:   David   Roberson 
  
To: [email protected] 
  
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 8:46 PM
  
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re:   [Vo]:Torbjörn Hartman describes power 
measurments
  


  
Robin,
  
 
  
The problem at hand is that the skeptic claims that power due   to the DC 
current can be very large and not detected.  There has been no   discussion of 
the AC current reading being affected by the DC so far.    That is a different 
issue entirely.
  
 
  
I would like for them to answer the questions because then they might   realize 
that their position is invalid.  I can explain this if   required.  No one is 
suggesting that Rossi actually has a DC power supply   hidden within the wall I 
hope.  This would be beyond reality since it   would be so easy to measure with 
a voltmeter or any monitor that looks at the   voltage.  The testers did a 
visual look at the voltage from what I have   determined.
  
 
  
So, skeptics, what say you?
  
 
  
Dave
  
  
  
-----Original   Message-----
From: mixent <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l   <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, May 26, 2013 11:08 pm
Subject:   Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Torbjörn Hartman describes power 
  measurments

  
In reply to  David Roberson's message of Sun, 26 May 2013 22:35:09 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,

This is a little different. A full bridge rectifier will allow for both halves
of the AC current to pass, and so it should be measured as little different to a
purely resistive load. However a single diode will only allow one half to pass,
which *may* mess up magnetic field based current measurements.
(I guess whether if does or not depends on the sophistication of the device.)
>
>Assume that you have a bridge rectifier in the blue box.  This is followed by 
>a 
filtering capacitor.  The DC is then used by the electronics connected to the 
capacitor.  Are you saying that it is not possible to determine the power input 
to this type of network by measuring the input AC voltage and current?  Or are 
you saying that someone has performed a scam and put a DC supply in series with 
the normal AC voltage?
>
>You do know that this could easily be measured by a simple DC voltmeter, right?
>
>Dave
[snip]
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

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