Josh, please refrain from insults.
Dave -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Cude <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, May 31, 2013 3:07 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Eric Walker <[email protected]> wrote: Yes, and only in a diesel engine do you not need a battery to keep spark plugs going. Demanding a self-sustaining device is like demanding a diesel engine. ICEs were first developed in the 1860s, and the diesel engine was invented in 1893, several decades later. I don't think that necessarily implies a similar period of development at this time, since we know so much about heat engines. But I think the only reasonable assumption is that it would be nontrivial for Rossi get his device to be self-sustaining. Seriously? Do you really not know how an internal combustion engine works? Have you not used a lawn mower, or a kick-start motorcycle or a pull-start outboard motor. Remember the cranks on model Ts? The engine produces the electricity for the spark, and to charge the battery. Even if the battery were involved in producing the spark (and in some engines it is partially used), the engine charges the battery, so the whole thing is still self-sustaining. I have no problem using a battery (or any number of them) to power the ecat. And if the ecat can charge the battery, I'll happily call it self-sustaining. Man, this place is crawling with ignoramuses.
