OK, if you are looking at that level of detail, you face many possibilities.  
We are greatly hampered in our ability to analyze these types of problems due 
to lack of knowledge about Rossi's material and its engineering behavior.  We 
all suspect that they will find variation throughout the device due to 
manufacturing type issues.  I have also been wondering how he handles the local 
hot spots that must surface and apparently we are not the only ones with this 
concern.

One thing in his favor is the thermal conductivity of the metal enclosing the 
core material.  This metal will make a strong effort to smooth out the 
temperatures.  And, it appears that Rossi has done a fair job with the heating 
resistors since they are symmetric.

We are not privy to how the active material is bound to the black metal 
cylinder, but I suspect that this is part of an important method for smoothing 
the internal temperatures.

I am afraid there is not much more that we can do beyond constructing a model 
without much more extensive data from Rossi.

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Walker <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Jun 2, 2013 5:22 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question


On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 2:10 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:



Does this help to explain the operation according to my model?





Yes.  But I think your SPICE model is working at a higher level than what I was 
describing.  Your model is looking at the thermodynamics of the system as a 
whole, and when you take away a third of the heat by cutting power to the 
resistance heaters, the core is starved and so on.  This is a macroscopic view 
of the core, where the temperature would appear uniform to a set of 
thermocouples. I'm looking at the microscopic level, where if you could zoom in 
you'd see a different level of activity.  I think your SPICE model is more 
consistent with my model (2) than my model (1).  I have in mind specifically 
the SPAWAR video [1].


One detail I should elaborate on for model (2) is that there would not 
necessarily be a threshold temperature, per se, above which you'd get runaway 
and below which you'd get dissipation.  Instead there would appear to be a 
bounded temperature range, at the lower bound of which you're less likely to 
get local temperature excursions and at the upper bound of which you'd be more 
likely to get them.  At the upper bound of the range, you'd cross over into 
runaway.


Eric


[1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUVmOQXBS68



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