And arguing with an idiot like you doesn't advance anything. Just an observation John.
Ransom Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2013, at 1:47 PM, John Milstone <[email protected]> wrote: > Nice attempt by Benne, Storms (I'm surprised that he piled on), and Roberson > to deflect the issue. > > There is still the issue that Rossi has a supposedly "dead" phase on his > 3-phase power cabling, and that that additional wire, if it were actually > "live" (as per the wiring gimmick in question), would have provided exactly > the amount of power allegedly being generated by the E-Cat (conveniently > hidden inside of a furnace out of sight of the IR camera). > > Regarding your specific rant, attempting to discredit "hot" fusion (or other > branches of conventional physics) does nothing to enhance LENR. > > John > > > From: David Roberson <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 1:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Vo]: About the March test > > I agree Ed. Both you and Jones have stated the situation eloquently and I > hope that John gives considerable thought to what has been said. > > I suppose that one reason that any current modern physics determination can > be overturned by a knowledgeable skeptic is that they all are the current > ideas which one day will be replaced by updated ones. This is scientific > progress as it should be. For example, Newton's old laws were assumed > perfect at the time, but Einstein came along and improved them with his > breakthroughs. > > So, now Rossi has his device under scrutiny by the skeptics who can always > find some reason to complain. Most if not all of the reasons thus far > suggested are invalid, but the skeptics seem to keep themselves occupied. > This is their job and they would not know how to behave otherwise so I guess > we have to cut them some slack. I would be concerned if what they spread > throughout the Internet were able to delay the solution to many of the needs > of mankind. > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Edmund Storms <[email protected]> > To: vortex-l <[email protected]> > Cc: Edmund Storms <[email protected]> > Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2013 12:56 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]: About the March test > > Well said, JONES!!! This is exactly the situation. Physics has sold > the governments of the world on spending money for research that has > practically no value. This use of money limits what else can be > explored and greatly distorts what can be discovered. LENR has been > rejected and held to a very high standard simply because it threatens > this spending, as you so clearly state. When LENR is finally applied > at a level that even an idiot will have to accept, the physics > community will have to explain why this acceptance took so long when > so much evidence was available and when the need for the energy was so > great. Careful evaluation and rational skepticism is important but > rational limits must be applied because EVERYTHING believed by science > can be rejected by a determined skeptic. We would still be in the > Dark Ages if rational limits to skepticism had not been agreed to and > applied in science. Why is so hard to do now with LENR? > > > > Ed > On Jun 21, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > > > > > > > From: John Milstone > > > > > > > > For starters, CERN isn't selling "franchises" to the Higgs Boson. > > CERN > > doesn't rely on "secret" customers and "secret" experts to validate > > their > > work. Etc, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is complete bull crap ! Big Science is doing much worse than > > that. > > > > > > > > But more so with regard to ITER or NOVA or Hot Fusion or other Big > > Science > > projects that are threatened by LENR than with CERN. > > > > > > > > The physics establishment is essentially selling "franchises" to > > every > > overpaid PhD and "yes-man" techie on the large staffs - who would be > > fired, > > if this kind of no-bid work were to be made moot by LENR. > > > > > > > > CERN might survive, but ITER and other extremely generous projects > > with > > routine $250k salaries would bite the dust! > > > > > > > > That is billions of dollars of bribe money, being paid out to an > > elite group > > to "tow the company line" ... That is far more despicable than Rossi > > struggling for investment capital. > > > > <winmail.dat> > > >
