John, Read what Jed says about your misrepresentation of the facts. Either he is correct, and his record is excellent, or you are and I choose to believe what he states with his backup documentation. You say that the testers did not have access to the wires, can you verify that? You state that the equipment was chosen and brought by Rossi and his agents. Can you prove that?
This is your chance to prove that you are believable and not Jed. Please point me to the exact text(page and line number) that supports your assertions. If you can not show exact text then I suggest that you read the report again. Both sides in the same wire....that is funny. I guess both sides are connected to the same pin of the three phase socket as well. You need to patent that. Dave -----Original Message----- From: John Milstone <john_sw_orla...@yahoo.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2013 3:17 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]: About the March test The wire trick puts both sides of the circuit in the same "wire". It's nothing more than using a lamp cord masquerading as a single conductor wire (only using wires that don't make it obvious that there are actually two conductors in the same insulation. It doesn't require a "coaxial" cable, and it doesn't require DC power, or any other modifications to the AC power "upstream" of the power cable. It specifically fools clamp-on ammeters. Rossi claimed to be using 3-phase power, but the report disputes that. They show only 2 of three phases carrying any current. But the third phase "hot" wire shows (supposedly) zero current flow. If it really was not being used, why is it still in the circuit? If it was being used, and we assume it was carrying the same current as the other 2 phases, then the input power completely explains the output power, without the need for any LENR reaction. There is nothing in the report that describes the testers performing "surgery" on the power lines. It's obvious from the description that the wires were separated (so the clamp-on ammeter could be used) and that there were spots where the conductors could be accessed for checking voltage, but nothing in the report says that it was the testers who made these preparations. It's clear that Rossi set up the power lines, so there is no particular reason not to believe that Rossi also did the prep work. And, if Rossi did this prep work, then it would have been easy for him to hide the gimmicked wiring. As for the testers not noticing the wiring gimmick: Since they failed to notice that their test equipment does not measure DC current at all, I'm not convinced that they were competent or diligent enough to detect such fraud. John From: David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: About the March test I admit I did not see your other posts. Sorry about that one. What you said does not add up yet. Current must go into a device and then return by some path. If, as you say, the dead wire is supplying AC current into the control for all time then where is the return current showing up? I recall a diagram that looked like it precluded that possibility. Every line had a current probe surrounding it. Are you back to DC power sneaking in? I hope you are not suggesting that the dead lead is a coaxial cable of some kind that went un noticed by the testers? This is a bit of a stretch. Dave