Jones, thanks for taking the time to perform the calculation. Even though it is a back of the envelope attempt, I think you have answered the question. Subject to revision, it appears that fusion must be taking place in Rossi's device in order for it to operate for as long as he specifies. Actually I am relieved at this result since I am not convinced that hydrinos are real. Maybe one day I will come to accept them, but my hard head needs a large drill to penetrate.
Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jones Beene <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Jun 22, 2013 10:19 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity? Dave, In terms of kg of hydrogenper kW of energy, the rule of thumb is a gain of 200:1 (ratio) if the hydrogengoes to an average redundancy level that Mills apparently believes is correct. Thiswould be on the low side - if some of that f/H then converts via a nuclearpathway. Thus, without redundancy compareto the 33 kWhr/kg or 33 watt-hr/gm as energy density for regular hydrogencombustion, that becomes about 6,600 kWhr/kg for f/H. Thus 1 kWhr requires ~ .15g with f/H and no secondary nuclear contribution. For 4000 hrs (half a year)for a continuous megawatt of thermal output (supposedly the big blue box) or 4gigawatt-hrs - that would consume over 600 kg. of hydrogen in half a year. Thiswould be derived from 2,400 kg of methane. The energy density by weight ofmethane is published as 14 kWh/kg so if you merely burned the methane insteadof removing the hydrogen for the ECat you would face as much as a 500:1 deficitover the ECat. Apparently a HotCat whichmay be more efficient - at a kW output with only 5 grams of hydrogen availablein a sealed capsule could not run for over 30 hours unless it was better thanthe 200:1. Caveat – this is aSaturday evening back of the envelope calculation J andgiven that Robin is already Sunday morning, I was hoping he would oblige. From:David Roberson I was hoping that you or someone else would have calculated theamount of hydrogen required to put out a reasonable amount of power for themandatory 1/2 year.

