If we model them after humans the answer is yes

On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 11:05 AM, H Veeder <[email protected]> wrote:

> If machines can have artificial intelligence can they have artificial
> stupidity?
>
> harry
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 3:02 AM, James Bowery <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I said "operational definitions" are crucial to experiments and that's
>> virtually by definition.  You, yourself, admitted it when you tried to
>> escape from an operational definition of intelligence by using art as a
>> proxy and then you went ahead and found yourself providing an operational
>> definition of art.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Eric Walker <[email protected]>wrote:
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>>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 8:41 PM, James Bowery <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> They are necessary so you can perform experiments.  If you don't like an
>>>> operational definition then you need to say why.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It seems like it is possible to make progress on a question like this
>>> without requiring a formal definition.  Perhaps a similar question to
>>> whether artificial intelligence is possible is whether computers can create
>>> art.  A well-conceived experiment might involve a panel of judges who use
>>> their experience and intuition, perhaps along with some guidelines, to
>>> judge submissions of "art," who then try to decide whether the submissions
>>> were from from a person or from a computer.  A formal definition might seek
>>> to spell out exactly what art is so that we can tell with great assurance
>>> whether a computer has produced it.  But art is something that is hard to
>>> define, and many people produce very poor art.
>>>
>>> I remember reading about a contest where they had a person who served as
>>> a judge on one side of a terminal and either a computer or a person on the
>>> other, and the judge had to decide whether he or she was interacting with a
>>> computer.  This seems like a test and one that can sort out whether
>>> artificial intelligence has been achieved to a certain extent (the computer
>>> fools most of the judges over a period of trials), without weighing down
>>> the challenge with the need to spell out what intelligence is.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>
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