So they want to use the Earth's rotation like a flywheel? Harry
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Terry Blanton <[email protected]> wrote: > Grimer seems to think it work: > > http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=112238#112238 > > Grimer: > > Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:52 pm Post subject: Another Claim to a > Working Device > > *Grimer wrote:* > *I think I am beginning to grasp one of the essential requirements for a > gravity mill. * > > *One must have a closed path for the weights on one side of the main axle > but no * > *closed path on the other. * > > *In other words we must have at least two centres of motion for the > weights. * > > *We probably need three but preventing structure as a whole moving > relative * > *to the earth will possibly give us the third.* > > LOL. It's all to do with the conservation of energy. > > Each energy derivative is conserved. The two familiar ones are of course > the first and second derivatives, Momentum and Force x distance. We can > think off these as velocity "energy" and acceleration energy. We could add > conservation of heat within an insulated space as a third familiar > conservation. > > But all derivatives must be conserved since we are talking in all cases of > more and more complicated examples of the basic conservation, the > conservation of momentum. > > So jerk is conserved, snap is conserved, crackle is conserved, pop is > conserved and all higher as yet unnamed derivatives are also conserved. > Heat covers a range of derivatives depending on the number of independent > particle motions involved. > > To return to the subject in hand, if we have a simple closed path which > weaves in and out towards a single axle centre then though we have plenty > of change in acceleration towards the centre (jerk), the positive jerk on > the one side is necessarily balanced by the negative jerk on the other and > so there is no net gain in energy. > > However, if we have a major and a minor centre and we loop around the > minor centre on one side but not on the other then we have more jerk energy > on one side than the other. So we can use the jerk vector to unbalance the > wheel - which is basically what Trevor is trying to do - and the Boys from > Brazil as well for that matter. > > <end quote> > > Extensive discussion in this thread. >

