Edmund Storms <[email protected]> wrote: Ignorance of one kind has been identified by Jed and many other people. > This kind of ignorance was demonstrated most clearly by Patterson years ago > and Rossi now. >
Yes indeed. It is enough to make you weep. Thank goodness Rossi has overcome this enough to allow the Levi report. He could do far more, needless to say. He is now on the right track. Let's give him credit. > Trying to prove LENR is real using heat production alone is futile. No > one, including myself, would be impressed by the output of any calorimeter > because too many ways are available to fake or screwup. Belief in the > reality of the general effect is possible only because hundreds of > calorimeters have been used and combined with other behavior. > YES! This is very important. It is another reason Tinsley and I were upset after the CETI non-demonstration. We thought they should provide context, and show that their results were in line with others. They should have pointed to F&P, McKubre, Storms and others. I said they should have prepared a "presentation." I mean a technical sales presentation suitable for an audience of engineers. A prepared talk and a handout. This list of other researchers is one of the things the presentation should have included. > A single calorimeter means NOTHING, especially when it is in the hands of > someone who knows nothing about the method and has a self-interest to be > non-objective. > True. On the other hand, with 300 W in and 900 W, Rossi could make a more convincing calorimeter than most people can. If he can make one self sustain for hours that would be very convincing. > Nevertheless, the effect has been demonstrated well enough to people who > read and can understand what they read. > Yes! But you have make a professional presentation. Whether it is an academic style presentation suitable for ICCF18, or a commercial presentation suitable for investors, you must put your best foot forward. Show your best data. Use the best instruments you can afford. There is not much difference between an academic presentation and a technical sales presentation. Unfortunately, the Defkalion presentations look more like an automobile trade show presentation meant to impress the general public. That is not what I have in mind. This may be useful at some point, but not now. Especially not for the audience at ICCF conferences. > Occurrence of a nuclear reaction is the only proof that matters. > This, I disagree with. Heat is the only thing that matters. Heat is worth money. Money is what investors want. They don't care whether it is nuclear or angel farts. > Instead, Rossi, starts by trying to master the engineering problems > without demonstrating the source of energy. > Well, that is what he is capable of. He is an engineer, not a physicist. If he keeps doing this and he allows the customers near the product I am sure he will soon be swimming in money. Unless someone steals it from him. - Jed

