I hesitate to put in my 2 cents worth, but this argument should be cooled down a few notches. Both of you guys are making fine contributions to the field and it would be much better for you to work together instead of against each other.
Dennis, I think you should take Jed up on his offer to edit your inputs if it would help your case. And Jed, try to be a bit less confrontational toward Dennis. Remember, he is actually performing experiments that sound difficult and interesting. I find his open discussions of the demonstrations that he plans to present refreshing and informative. What he is doing is not an easy task and I understand why he prefers to tackle the technical aspects of the concepts much more readily than the boring paper work. Jed, your life revolves around paper work that most scientists would rather not perform at the expense of their time. Unfortunately, there is a requirement to put things to paper which you find comfortable. I admire the work you are doing in maintaining the cold fusion library and I hope that you continue with the same zeal as always. You guys kiss and make up! Dave -----Original Message----- From: DJ Cravens <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jul 10, 2013 10:40 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:DGT or ECAT? Same Process? Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 22:21:47 -0400 Subject: Re: [Vo]:DGT or ECAT? Same Process? From: [email protected] To: [email protected] I have never "complained" about lack of funding. This is like saying you complain of thirst, not that you have no water. You complain you cannot do the work. You complain you are forced to retire. You cannot do the work because you do not have money. If you had money, you could do the work. Point to any complaint other than your attacks. Again your statement of "forced to retire" is a lie an insulting. (I do admit that my wife wants me to back of experiments with nano powders due to health safety.) Your statement of not working because I don't have the money, is a lie. I HAVE worked without getting money for it. That is not a complaint. Your analogy is weak. You do not have to be thirsty just because you have no water. Sometimes you just don't need water. And sometimes you can have things beside water. You don't always need money. There are other rewards at exploring the unknown. Only someone who totally misunderstands or tries to twist things would say that not being externally funded is a complaint. Only someone who totally misunderstands me would say I am a money grubber, or that I want you to get money for its own sake. I do not give a damn whether you live on welfare and you have $10 in the bank. It is no concern of mine. My only agenda is to see that cold fusion succeeds. I am in favor any step (sic) to promote that, including funding people who hate money. It is a means to an end. Perhaps you should work on your style because I misunderstand you. You tend to use the money argument over and over. If you care as you say, then talk to your so called friends. Either you are the type that people would believe you at your word or you have not shown yourself to be truly trustworthy, or they are only imaginary fair weather friends. - Jed
