That demo is not clearly bulletproof, however there are many details that
let no real doubt of reality.

The fact that they ignored steam enthalpy show that they don't want to
overstate the COP, since they accept to understate it. They just wanted to
prove reality, while a COP of 160 seems credible after more engineering.

There are two possibilities, with no intermediate.

Either it is a fraud. in that case their allowance to let uncontrolled
observer lurk the pipes and wires, to let him dismantle the wires, shows
that the tricks is not in the wires or the pipes...
An oscilloscope allowed to enter the room eliminate also anything about RF.
Their body language, and the loose security opposed to observers close all
realistic options for fraud.

If you add the Nelson test report (the human part is enough ) it confirms
that.

My analysis is that this hypothesis does not hold facing the evidence, the
behaviors.
It is comfortable to stay skeptical, it is good to avoid personal critics
by extremists, but it is not supported by the mesh of evidences.
I prefer to be insulted as believers, but there is a moment when doubting
is a delusion, and complicity of delusion. Call me a whistleblower, it is
fashion today.

the alternative is that they are sincere, at least like a corporate
(letting room for optimism, bias).
If they are sincere, they have done many similar test (which explain their
low-tech protocol, adapted to demo and to engineering), and this test was
done for a communication purpose, mainly toward the scientific community at
ICCF18.
It seems the community is quite skeptic, negative , about Defkalion, and
that maybe their purpose.
Being sincere they have to avoid claiming false things that could be
opposed later to hurt them.
Unlike some industriels or science domain, they know that any error or
manipulation won't be forgiven. Red Herring or errors are very dangerous
(Rossi shows that).

This is why I analyse that their scientific claims (Magnetic field, Debye
temp...) are simply sincere.
I don't say true, I say sincere. That let room for errors, artifacts, bias,
optimism.

about their business claims, all which could be checked afterward is
normally true, except for communication errors (misunderstanding).
For the loose claims which are hard to check (like interested corps,
application development), there is room for exaggeration.

anyway for the future, sincerity does not prevent to be wrong, to change
strategy afterward, to be surprised by the environments,...

Given the tendency in cold fusion domain to be skeptical, I estimate that
Defkalion claims are more reliable that the equivalent claims from
green-energy startup.
They know their abuse won't be forgiven, they checked all before, they
control claims.
More reliable, does not meant perfect... and Green-energy startup, like
most startup, do exaggerates, make errors, change strategy, and crash
often...

About the science, given their visible desire to seduce LENR science
community, I assume that their claim are simply sincere. Too much risk else.



2013/7/31 H Veeder <[email protected]>

> maybe the steam was just hot air?
>
> *ducks*
>
> harry
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Craig <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 07/29/2013 05:52 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
>> > James Bowery <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     There is no video of the steam output.
>> >
>> >
>> > Are you sure? Someone told me there is. Have your reviewed the full 8
>> > hours?
>> >
>>
>> I watched it all, and though I may have missed a moment or two, they did
>> not show the steam output.
>>
>> Mats Lewan did observe that there was NO water in the steam during the
>> hot part of the run.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>

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