That demo is not clearly bulletproof, however there are many details that let no real doubt of reality.
The fact that they ignored steam enthalpy show that they don't want to overstate the COP, since they accept to understate it. They just wanted to prove reality, while a COP of 160 seems credible after more engineering. There are two possibilities, with no intermediate. Either it is a fraud. in that case their allowance to let uncontrolled observer lurk the pipes and wires, to let him dismantle the wires, shows that the tricks is not in the wires or the pipes... An oscilloscope allowed to enter the room eliminate also anything about RF. Their body language, and the loose security opposed to observers close all realistic options for fraud. If you add the Nelson test report (the human part is enough ) it confirms that. My analysis is that this hypothesis does not hold facing the evidence, the behaviors. It is comfortable to stay skeptical, it is good to avoid personal critics by extremists, but it is not supported by the mesh of evidences. I prefer to be insulted as believers, but there is a moment when doubting is a delusion, and complicity of delusion. Call me a whistleblower, it is fashion today. the alternative is that they are sincere, at least like a corporate (letting room for optimism, bias). If they are sincere, they have done many similar test (which explain their low-tech protocol, adapted to demo and to engineering), and this test was done for a communication purpose, mainly toward the scientific community at ICCF18. It seems the community is quite skeptic, negative , about Defkalion, and that maybe their purpose. Being sincere they have to avoid claiming false things that could be opposed later to hurt them. Unlike some industriels or science domain, they know that any error or manipulation won't be forgiven. Red Herring or errors are very dangerous (Rossi shows that). This is why I analyse that their scientific claims (Magnetic field, Debye temp...) are simply sincere. I don't say true, I say sincere. That let room for errors, artifacts, bias, optimism. about their business claims, all which could be checked afterward is normally true, except for communication errors (misunderstanding). For the loose claims which are hard to check (like interested corps, application development), there is room for exaggeration. anyway for the future, sincerity does not prevent to be wrong, to change strategy afterward, to be surprised by the environments,... Given the tendency in cold fusion domain to be skeptical, I estimate that Defkalion claims are more reliable that the equivalent claims from green-energy startup. They know their abuse won't be forgiven, they checked all before, they control claims. More reliable, does not meant perfect... and Green-energy startup, like most startup, do exaggerates, make errors, change strategy, and crash often... About the science, given their visible desire to seduce LENR science community, I assume that their claim are simply sincere. Too much risk else. 2013/7/31 H Veeder <[email protected]> > maybe the steam was just hot air? > > *ducks* > > harry > > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Craig <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 07/29/2013 05:52 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: >> > James Bowery <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > There is no video of the steam output. >> > >> > >> > Are you sure? Someone told me there is. Have your reviewed the full 8 >> > hours? >> > >> >> I watched it all, and though I may have missed a moment or two, they did >> not show the steam output. >> >> Mats Lewan did observe that there was NO water in the steam during the >> hot part of the run. >> >> Craig >> >> >

