I agree Jed. My comment was made to point out that the energy is being produced internally as a result of elevated temperature. This is an ideal indication of LENR activity. No input as such is required! Of course, the best possible proof to those who fail to listen would be to witness a thermal run away with no wires attached.
I have begged Rossi to produce a curve of energy generated versus temperature applied to his material to no avail. With that type of information one can begin to actually engineer a device that functions on demand provided the material is not too inconsistent. The process reminds me of the work that was done during WWII toward determining the amount of material needed for a critical mass. In this case it would be the critical mass required to reach thermal run away under controlled conditions. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Sep 20, 2013 6:18 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: It is not clear how any form of energy gain is associated with this experiment. The demonstration appears to generate LENR energy, but the input function is not present. That's 'cause there is no input! It is all heat after death (as we call it). It resembles Arata's first experiments with Zr-Ni. Cravens does have to heat up the whole environment, presumably because Ni does not absorb H at lower temperatures, but he heats up the blank in the same environment, to the same extent, so this is the local ambient temperature. There is no extra heat or stimulation going into the cold fusion cell. It is a splendid demonstration. One of the best in the history of the field. It is a lot better than Dennis himself realizes, I think. He told me he sees little difference between this and some of the other leading experiments. I pointed out some crucial differences: 1. This is heat after death; no input. Like Arata, as I said, only way better calorimetry. 2. The heat is stable. That's important! 3. It uses cheap, widely available materials, like Rossi. 4. It appears to be reproducible. I hope it is. - Jed
