oh yeah, for truly depressing caution & cynicism, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States
Sure as hell hope we don't do that sort of thing anymore.... On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Blaze Spinnaker <blazespinna...@gmail.com>wrote: > reasonable amount of caution: the nsa has recruited double agents at > american companies to insert back doors into internet tech so they can spy > on both americans and those abroad. > > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 8:24 PM, John Berry <berry.joh...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> The most interesting and somewhat topic relevant portion of this >>> discussion is that of why belief systems that support trust in leadership, >>> authority and beliefs that support general social cohesion are likely to be >>> strongly selected in evolutionary terms. >>> >> >> I'm not against the topic. I was being a little flippant -- my >> apologies. I do not mean to be disrespectful. I guess I feel that there's >> healthy skepticism, and then there's stuff that goes beyond healthy >> skepticism. It is healthy to be skeptical of mainstream science when it >> comes to something like LENR. It is healthy to be skeptical of the >> government when they say that they're not reading your email right now. >> >> Then there's stuff that goes beyond healthy skepticism. It's almost like >> an autoimmune disorder, where the immune system goes overboard and attacks >> the body or the nervous system. This seems to be the case when people >> throw out all science, instead of just the more egregious stuff discounting >> LENR. Or when we imagine a cabal that is intentionally playing around with >> the Fed rate in order to maintain control of Washington. >> >> I guess it's a matter of degree more than anything else. >> >> Right amount of caution and cynicism: The US government help to overthrow >> an elected government in Iran and support the coup-d'etat that put in place >> the Shah. >> Right amount of caution and cynicism: The CIA tried to organize an >> invasion of Cuba when Castro took over. >> Right amount of caution and cynicism: The US government gave its support >> to brutal dictators in South America for many years. >> Right amount of caution and cynicism: The US government gave coordinates >> of Iranian military forces to the Iraqi government so that chemical weapons >> could be more accurately deployed against them. >> Going overboard: The US government, or some part of it, undertook a >> false flag operation and destroyed the World Trade Center buildings with >> planes in order to advance its strategic objectives. >> Going overboard: The US government, or some part of it, thought it would >> make sense to deploy a hydrogen bomb against a US city or town for the sake >> of its strategic objectives. (I suppose this would potentially occur to a >> few extremists in government, but luckily more rational people would no >> doubt prevail.) >> >> I don't think it is submitting to the aura of authority of the US >> government and yielding up critical analysis and imbibing its account of >> things to take these positions. It's asking what makes sense and what is >> feasible, and trying to sort out the truth of the matter. This is >> something that is hard to do when one's trust of anything and everything >> related to the government has been undermined. >> >> Eric >> >> >> >> >
