Dave this is correct, high velocity of object thru the ether or in the case of 
gravity high acceleration of ether thru the stationary object, all formulas 
regarding time dilation have at the heart V^2/C^2 because it is due to the 
Pythagorean relationship between the spatial and temporal axii, Lorentzian 
contraction is both a perspective and a reality where a collision between a 
contracted near luminal object and a stationary object could be avoided under 
certain circumstances because the space time boundary stretches to contain the 
near luminal object. it would appear much slower and contracted in the 
direction of travel from the perspective of the nearby stationary object as it 
flashes past due to Lorentzian contraction. Even a trajectory taking the 
objects thru  overlapping  SPATIAL coordinates would still be offset by what 
appears to both observers as a spatial displacement but is actually a temporal 
displacement  because we are trapped in a 3d ant farm and the mechanics of 
space time have to stretch space while shortening time for the object 
approaching C. the relativistic spaceship is turning outward into the temporal 
boundary that is our ant farm... and the boundaries  stretch forming extra 
dimensional space from our perspective at the cost of one contracted dimension 
from the stationary observers perspective..Lorentzian contraction... IMHO the 
inverted hydrogen or hydrino works in the opposite manner.. instead of 
accumulating the intersection rate of a luminal spaceship with the passage of 
time, ether, virtual particles passing thru this ant farm we exist in to slow 
time, the segregation of the virtual particle passage by casimir geometry 
creates concentrated cavities where time is accelerated. Hence the claims of 
anomalous decay of radioactive gases..  My theory extends casimir's theory that 
larger virtual particles are excluded from the cavity and instead postulates 
the larger particles are still present in the cavity by making the time 
dimension smaller and enlarging the spatial dimension...

Fran

From: David Roberson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 1:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Time, Mass, Gravity

I believe that the slowing of time is what an outside observer sees when he 
looks at the gyroscope within the strong field.  Someone located near the 
affected instrument would not see anything unusual or any slowing in its 
rotation.

If the gyroscope remains within the strong field for a long time, it would 
complete fewer revolutions than one that remained at the original position 
above the gravitational field.  The same thing would happen to any clock device 
whether it is atomic or mechanical such as a heartbeat.

I do not believe that mass change makes an important contribution to the 
slowing down of the rotation as seen from above.

I suspect that rotational energy of the scope would be reduced in the exact 
same proportion as that observed for an atomic oscillator at the same location 
when compared to one outside of the field.  You are asking an interesting 
question about where the energy is stored as the gyroscope mass is observed 
moving close to the gravitational source and slowing down.  I would expect COE 
to be preserved so it should be possible to locate the missing energy.

Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: H Veeder <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Sat, Nov 9, 2013 12:51 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Time, Mass, Gravity
I don't think it has been tested because the possibility is not predicted by 
General Relativity.  GR says that the observed difference in the passage of 
time is due to the slowing of time rather than a change in the mechanical 
characteristics of the device (a gyroscope in this case) used to measure the 
passage of time.

Harry

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Steve Wallace 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I will have to think this one through. I had not even considered that aspect 
and I haven't read any type of experiments on it. Have you?

Best regards,
Steve

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:33 AM, a.ashfield 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Steve Wallace,
On possibility would be that the mass of the flywheel also increases, which 
would both explain the flywheel slowing and where the energy goes.



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