*"The critique is of a Ni bar experiment performed by Focardi, Habel, and Piantelli."*
The paper that was critiqued was written in 1998, the paper that I reference was produced in 2012. Maybe things have changed in that 14 year period; ya think? I have read all the info on the Ni/H reactor that I can get my hands on, and that all produce transmuted elements, they don't use deuterium, and they don't produce tritium, the hallmark of deuterium fusion. The Ni/H reactor does not fuse deuterium to produce heat. Without a doubt, transmutation of elements is the source of excess heat in the Ni/H reactor. "*You do not know of everything in the literature, or everything said at various conferences. Neither do I, but evidently I heard some things you missed out on. There is no "default" here, and the answer is not an absolute yes or no. Piantelli is not that well established. He has not been independently replicated, so strictly speaking, nothing has been established. When 3 to 5 other researchers have confirmed the heat and the transmutations, then we will know with confidence the results are real."* The default is I choose to accept Piantelli's experimental results over your opinions because you have not proved your case. Deuterium LENR reactions and the Ni/H reaction are two completely different reactions. Any opinions formed in decades old conversations about Deuterium Fusion cannot be applied to the current Ni/H reactors. No developer of the Ni/H reactor states that deuterium fusion is the source of their excess heat. They all state that transmutation of elements are the source of excess heat; this all inclusive list includes Miley. You have this religious like fixation on deuterium fusion that cannot be applied to every LENR system. How can deuterium factor into a system that does not contain deuterium??? On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote: > Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I don't see a any criticism of Piantelli's experimental procedure in the >> paper you provided. >> > The critique is of a Ni bar experiment performed by Focardi, Habel, and > Piantelli. The technique is the same. Others including McKubre have > critiqued the technique for similar reasons, although I do not recall they > published. > > So by default, the proof I provided stands true and conclusive. >> > By default? By default you have read every paper in the literature and > talked to McKubre and every scientist who has discussed this work? How did > you do that, by ESP? > > You do not know of everything in the literature, or everything said at > various conferences. Neither do I, but evidently I heard some things you > missed out on. There is no "default" here, and the answer is not an > absolute yes or no. Piantelli is not that well established. He has not been > independently replicated, so strictly speaking, nothing has been > established. When 3 to 5 other researchers have confirmed the heat and the > transmutations, then we will know with confidence the results are real. > > Nobody wins by default in experimental science. Everyone has to play > through to the end. > > - Jed > >
