Garwin is a scientist and by training tends to be very cautious.  The excuses 
that he used to doubt the excess power measurement of course are lame, but we 
should note that he included them.  This is the type of behavior one might 
expect from someone who just witnessed a magic trick that he is unable to 
figure out.  Or someone that stumbled upon a new process unknown to standard 
physics that might take a long time to explain.  His mind would be torn between 
believing his observations and assuming that they can be understood if 
sufficient time and effort is applied to that issue.

I suspect that most scientists in that position would hedge their bets for the 
moment and that appears to be what Garwin has done.  He refuses to believe that 
cold fusion of any type is possible due to his training and vast experience.  
Surely the people conducting the experiment made some type of blunder, even 
though it appears quite subtle.  He likely feels that if given enough time, he 
will be able to prove the error.  In this case he does not have enough time to 
"waste" so he merely states what he witnessed.  This does not mean that he 
agrees with the conclusion that we all accept.

If we could confine him within a room for a couple of months, or maybe years in 
his case, where all of his energy is expended in the conduction of more and 
more precise measurements, he will reluctantly change his mind.  That is about 
the only way this will occur.  I strongly believe that his trip to McKubre's 
lab was not to find the truth, but instead to teach him the errors of his 
methods.  There was zero chance for Garwin to announce that cold fusion were 
real under any circumstances.  That denial continues to this day.

Being on the wrong side of history is the price he will pay for his reluctance 
to accept the proof before him.  So far, the cost has been negligible to him.  
But keep in mind that he believes exactly the same thing about scientists who 
continue to work in this field.  Unfortunately many of them have paid a dear 
price for their efforts with little reward.  One day the table will turn.


Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Jan 3, 2014 9:46 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:McKubre visitors who peer-reviewed his lab, then get 
(unethically) silent



David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:


He should have confidence in what he has seen, but I can think of other things 
that one might see on fleeting occasions but still have reservations.  I 
suppose UFO's, ghosts, and etc. fall into that category.



I think it was Garwin who described it as fleeting, like a UFO. This is a 
mischaracterization. As McKubre said, it is "neither small nor fleeting."

http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/McKubreMCHdevelopmen.pdf



My point is that if Garwin agrees the noise level is 50 mW, and the signal is 
500 to 1000 mW -- as he said -- then the various reasons he gave to doubt the 
results are not large enough to make a significant difference. The first thing 
he mentioned, the 3% overall excess heat, is nonsense. It is 3% overall but at 
time it was 30% and at other times it was over 100% of input. It was never 
negative, so there was no energy storage. The 3% is not a valid reason to 
question the results. Garwin is an experienced scientist. He should understand 
that. If he does not understand it he is incompetent and if he does understand 
it he is being disingenuous.


- Jed




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